Hair Tonic??
- imurhuckleberry
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Hair Tonic??
Gentlemen,
After much research I will be buying a tube of Brylcream for stlying but I have a question and this may sound juvenile but what are the hair tonics for? I have read several threads and tried the ever reliable Google but cant find a straight answer. I have also read that some people use it as a type of cologne.
Ever since I began traditional shaving I have had a retro curiosity. And like many members have found that the older more estblishe products tend to work the best.
After much research I will be buying a tube of Brylcream for stlying but I have a question and this may sound juvenile but what are the hair tonics for? I have read several threads and tried the ever reliable Google but cant find a straight answer. I have also read that some people use it as a type of cologne.
Ever since I began traditional shaving I have had a retro curiosity. And like many members have found that the older more estblishe products tend to work the best.
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- Duke of Silvertip!
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huckleberry, Well I was waiting for one of the gents who actually USE hair products to respond....Jani, or Ken...or somebody....but I guess I'll just fill in until those guys show up....
First of all, welcome to SMF. Plain hair tonics are mostly for scent, although they also wet the hair, making it easier to comb, get a straight part, etc. Now if you add oil to them, which they often do ( Trumpers Eucris, Vitalis, etc. ) then they also add some gloss to the hair and a little bit of holding property...keeping the hair in place. Not to the extent of a hair cream, obviously, but a little.
Regards,
Gordon
First of all, welcome to SMF. Plain hair tonics are mostly for scent, although they also wet the hair, making it easier to comb, get a straight part, etc. Now if you add oil to them, which they often do ( Trumpers Eucris, Vitalis, etc. ) then they also add some gloss to the hair and a little bit of holding property...keeping the hair in place. Not to the extent of a hair cream, obviously, but a little.
Regards,
Gordon
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They used to sell them with all sorts of balderdash (©Gordon) attached. Lazy Scalp had "hormones" to "stimulate the scalp". "Special Lotion" removed dandruff (by, I suspect, gluing it to the scalp.) Silvikrin had "pure silvikrin" in it (none of your adulterated cheap far-Eastern silvikirn for our boys, oh no sir indeed) Etc etc.
Gordon's right, of course. As always. The only thing I'd add is that the ones with castor oil (E.g. Trumper's Floreka) have a slightly more (gummy) hold than ones with mineral oil (E.g. Trumper's Eucris or Coronis) which add a little more shine. You can tell the difference because the mineral oil floats on top while the castor oil ones are a clear emulsion.
Truth be told, most men used them for the smell, in the days when Men Did Not Wear Scent (unless they were Hungarians or Mexicans, reeked of the stuff, pah!, dashed pansies etc etc.)
Gordon's right, of course. As always. The only thing I'd add is that the ones with castor oil (E.g. Trumper's Floreka) have a slightly more (gummy) hold than ones with mineral oil (E.g. Trumper's Eucris or Coronis) which add a little more shine. You can tell the difference because the mineral oil floats on top while the castor oil ones are a clear emulsion.
Truth be told, most men used them for the smell, in the days when Men Did Not Wear Scent (unless they were Hungarians or Mexicans, reeked of the stuff, pah!, dashed pansies etc etc.)
Michael
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Michael, Indeed....foreign pansies....disgraceful! Of course there always were those aristocrats and that Hammam Bouquet?....but as in many other things, the aristocracy had a their own 'rules' no doubt ( chuckle ). And, Floris managed to stay in business and their clientele surely wasn't ENTIRELY ex-pat Russian counts, South American dandies, and women.....was it?
Regards,
Gordon
Regards,
Gordon
- imurhuckleberry
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Thank you for the response. I did buy a tube of the Brylcreem and noticed the sheen that it gave to my hair. I was also impressed with the hold. I have used palmades or gels in the past but found that they gum up or turn my hair into a shell. The smell was also pleasant so I think I will stick with this for some time.
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Oh, Brylcream is a classic product and no mistake. While American in origin ( I think ) it is still sold in some of the fine old gentlemen's shops in Europe. I haven't used any products in my hair since 1962 ( that is to say, 8th grade ) but it WAS Brylcream there at the end ( chuckle ). Enjoy.
Regards,
Gordon
Regards,
Gordon
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I used Brylcreem as a kid, still remember standing in front of the mirror while my Dad combed and styled our hair with the "little dab of doo".
As we got older, Brylcreem definitely fell out of style and it was only just a few years ago that I bought another tube for old times sake. I haven't used anything else since to finish and groom. Great stuff!
As we got older, Brylcreem definitely fell out of style and it was only just a few years ago that I bought another tube for old times sake. I haven't used anything else since to finish and groom. Great stuff!
Good shaving,
Gary
Gary
I'm very fortunate that the scent of Vitalis is excellent to my nose. I like it a lot. Been using it for many years.Straight Arrow wrote:I've used Brylcreem, Groom & Clean, Top Brass, and a few other hair dressings over the years, but overall my top choice is Vitalis. The scent (which fades fast) is questionable, but the performance of this tonic is very good, providing non-greasy hold all day.
Gary
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I started using hair tonic's about a year ago instead of balms and find they moisture and de frizz my hair while making it more manageable. A thorough combing gives a very slick look and hold while a gentle ruffle gives a soft, casual look. I use hair tonic with castor oil when my hair is dry and without oil in the summer. I haven't tried tonics with mineral oil as I detest an oily feel to my hair (though I'm tempted to try Trumpers Coronis). My daily hair tonics have a fleeting scent so that they don't crash with my colognes.
Eric
Tonics actually do have an active ingredient. They have ppg, peg, or glycerin, all of which will provide some light hold, frizz control, and wetness/shine. Some include mineral oil, too, for extra hold and shine. Basically, tonics are like leave in condititioner, except generally cheaper, and with oldschool barbershop scents.
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Pashana? Well now, maybe I could get a small bottle just to give it a whirl, considering it can double as an after shave in a pinch. Now you've got me wondering if my all time favorite I wouldn't be without (Vitalis) might double as an after shave? But now I think I remember I already tried it once, but can't recall if it was a successful experiment. Must not have been, since I'm not using it as an aftershave now. Oh, well.
Gary
SOTD 99%: Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, soaps & creams, synthetic / badger brushes, Colonial General razor, Kai & Schick blades, straight razors any time, Superior 70 aftershave splash + menthol + 444
SOTD 99%: Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, soaps & creams, synthetic / badger brushes, Colonial General razor, Kai & Schick blades, straight razors any time, Superior 70 aftershave splash + menthol + 444
Nice thread. I bought some Jerris w/o oil not long ago and it helps my hair not to be so dry, and aids in combing. It does little to hold mine in place (as is advertised), so I follow with "The Dry Look" h/s. Now I want to try the Vitalis and see about eliminating the spray.
But back to the non-oil Jerris: I thought it would hold my hair, but it does not do so well. Any thoughts here?
Any of you guys tried this 3 Purpose Lucky Tiger?:
Roger
But back to the non-oil Jerris: I thought it would hold my hair, but it does not do so well. Any thoughts here?
Any of you guys tried this 3 Purpose Lucky Tiger?:
Roger
Roger
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