Scuttle Butt

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Bargepole
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Two lovely moss scuttles from Sara Bonnyman arrived this morning. Here they are, with a Rooney 2 medium and a little Duke beside them.

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There's been some talk about brush size -v- scuttle size. At first use, it seems to me that the important factor is not the brush diameter but its loft. Here's the Rooney, approx 6cm loft, in the small scuttle, about 5.3 cm deep:

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See how the BUTT of the brush doesn't contact the walls of the scuttle. Now here's the little Duke, about 4cm loft, in the same scuttle:


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The butt of the little Duke can clatter against the walls of the scuttle when whipping up.

Now here are the same two brushes in the big scuttle (depth about 4.8cm - slightly shallower)


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Even with the smaller Duke, there's enough horizontal area to whip up a clatter-free soapstorm in the big scuttle.

Don't get me wrong. These are both a delight to use. But my first-look conclusions are:

(1) The Rooney is a fairly big brush but the small scuttle offers it enough room to whip up a decent lather AND

(2) There's always going to be a compromise between diameter of the scuttle and ability to transfer heat from the walls to the resting brush BUT

(3) A deep scuttle with a short-ish loft brush is going to be prone to clattering SO ALTHOUGH

(4) an ideal compromise might be a small scuttle with a shallower (say 3.5 cms) bowl - big enough for anything but a mighty Plisson >#16, shallow enough for a smaller brush (and I've emailed Sara to suggest this) I WOULD CONCLUDE THAT

(5) for the time being, unless your brush has a loft >4.5cm, the big one is the way to go.

I know this goes against current thinking and I may be wrong & everyone else is right. Only time will tell.

But in any case you need a Moss Scuttle and you need one now :D
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Post by rtaylor61 »

Michael,

Great post. I have not used my scuttle for a bit, waiting for cooler weather. And as you said at the end of your post..."you need one now"!
High today...35 degrees!

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Sara e-mailed me this evening to say that she has now shipped 400 scuttles! They seem to have gone all over the world, with ones to Norway, Australia and yet more to the US this week. I'm glad they seem to be well received, so I thought I would pass on her thanks. I hope you all continue to enjoy them as much as I do. Lately I have been sticking to the small one in the waterfall pattern with either a Duke 3 Best or a Plisson HMW 12. We're getting frosts regularly now and there are snow flurries in the air, so some hot lather is a treat!

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Post by bernards66 »

Jeez.....yet more pressure to get one of these things....of course, it's hardly ever cold here....maybe that's a factor....sigh....
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bernards66 wrote:Jeez.....yet more pressure to get one of these things....of course, it's hardly ever cold here....maybe that's a factor....sigh....
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Gordon, in January I'm going to ship you are large box full of Cold Canadian Winter. Then you'll want a scuttle. Oh yes.

Although I hear Winnipeg gets it worse (like everything else). You may want to contact Ravi or kaptain_zero instead.
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Post by kaptain_zero »

Sigh.... heading for 19 degrees fahrenheit (-7c) and there's about 5" of snow on the ground..... Hey, only 6 more months and it'll seem like the snow was never here! :lol:

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Post by Vern »

I have one enroute to to the deep south (Mississippi). I really like warm lather and my bride of 26 years says the pet food bowl cannot stay on the counter. I showed her the Moss Scuttle and she ordered the large blue one for me. Thanks, Dr.

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kaptain_zero wrote:Sigh.... heading for 19 degrees fahrenheit (-7c) and there's about 5" of snow on the ground..... Hey, only 6 more months and it'll seem like the snow was never here! :lol:

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What is cold...Brrrrrrr 79 degrees today. :D
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Yea and it rained. With the front coming in temp got down to about 65. Joni says she is going to have to bring out the winter sweaters.

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Post by Ken »

I don't understand not getting the scuttle for use in any weather, especially if your house is air-conditioned. The lather is warm but not really hot (unless you keep your water heater at an exremely high temperature) and feels good on mornings warm and cold. If you don't have one, I urge you to get one immediately. It can also be used to keep shaving soap lather warm (start up the lather in the soap container and continue building in the scuttle).

Well, I finally made it to #200.

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Post by Laney1566 »

Well, I appreciated my scuttle this morning. Winter is finally showing it's wet face around here. Thankfully my wet face is quite warm with my large scuttle and SR-108 brush. :D
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Re: Scuttle Butt

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Bargepole wrote:(3) A deep scuttle with a short-ish loft brush is going to be prone to clattering SO ALTHOUGH...
I guess I don't understand. What's wrong with clattering? To me, the musical clink of the brush against the side of the bowl as I whip up a lather is one of the nicest parts of the shaving ritual. It reminds me very strongly of being a kid and watching my dad lather up on a Sunday morning.
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big scuttle

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i have a beautiful brush with a 30mm knot. i am looking for a scuttle that it big enough. the head is about 9.5cm across dry. where can i find one such item?

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I use the large size scuttle with such brushes. Remember it is not being used as a big whipping bowl; most of the workup of the lather is done on your face and the scuttle needs to keep contact with the brush and its lather when stored in the scuttle, in order to let the heat transfer.

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Post by jww »

OK - I'll bite - where is the best place to get a good price on a scuttle, then?
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straight from the source.....
http://www.sarabonnymanpottery.com/
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