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Postby PACHUCO » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:58 am

Great post, although now I am a bit concerned that I just bought some GFT violet earlier today, I was exited because it is going to be my first high end cream, until now it has mainly been Proraso. Thank you though on a great articulate yet concise post.

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Postby drumana » Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:18 am

One question for you guys. I keep seeing all these posts about the reformulations of all of these creams from the 3 T's. Are they really that bad??? As in I should probably not buy them as they are not worth a damn anymore? What happened to them?

So, I'm no authority on this - only been wetshaving for just under a year, but. . .

TOBS: I've tried the Avocado and the Almond. I find them to be excellent - especially for the price $13 a tub. Dabble with these first IMO. I will purchase more of these in the future.

T&H: I've tried the Ultimate Comfort, 1805, and Almond. I didn't care too much for the UC, I like the 1805, and the Almond was very similiar to the TOBS Almond - good but twice the price :x . I probably won't purchase more of these - but you could twist my arm and get them for me as a gift :D

I haven't tried any soaps from these guys and I haven't tried any of Trumpers' stuff.

I don't know, maybe I'm a heathen - but these creams are OK in my book.
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Postby Whistler » Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:28 am

Wonderful post Michael!

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Postby mikeny278 » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:51 am

Awesome post! It has swayed me to do the following changes to my routine this morning:

- going to use my HD loaded with a Derby
- Musgo Real Shave Cream
- Face lathering (for 7 minutes!)
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Postby Dave T » Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:59 am

Very enjoyble post, Michael. I wish you'd find time to post more often. One thing I learned today, thanks to you, is a new word: "inspissated."

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Postby Exapno » Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:56 am

Hear hear.
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Postby drumana » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:26 pm

Leaving a bit of shaving cream residue on the face and towelling it in is as good as anything.

I never really thought about doing this, but it makes sense. I tried it today with my Body Shop cream and it worked very well - I really didn't need any other after shave product. :D I'm going to try this several days in a row and see how my skin reacts. . .
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Postby offshoot » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:38 pm

Michael, Sir,

You should write a book.

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Postby drmoss_ca » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:43 pm

Now I know what's been missing around here lately. Do call again!

(And I'm glad that you and the straight are getting along together!)

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Postby Bargepole » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:08 pm

drmoss_ca wrote:(And I'm glad that you and the straight are getting along together!)


It's getting a little friend next week...

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Postby sgtrecon212 » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:48 pm

One of a kind post. =D>
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Postby RJ » Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:34 pm

Thanks for bringing a newb back down to earth. I've gotten so caught up in the newness that I find myself inquiring about/purchasing different brushes, razors and creams when in reality, the ones I have work fine. Don't get so caught up in the details that your forget to enjoy the experience.
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Postby bernards66 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:09 am

Well, by George, you certainly seem to be coming along. Why in another couple of years on SMF and you'll be really on top of it.....probably even moved past those mediocre Derby blades by then ( chuckle ). A great post, as yours always are, especially the ones where you let it roll a bit. Don't necessarily agree on each and every point, but then, it would be bizarre if I did, keeping in mind your final 'shaving rule '.
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Postby fallingwickets » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:25 am

Leaving a bit of shaving cream residue on the face and towelling it in is as good as anything

As good as anything is understatement of the year!

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Thanks for the great read Michael.

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Postby Hoos » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:16 pm

This should be a sticky.

Being new to DE shaving, even though I've shaved for 30 years, Bargepole hits it right on the head.

This post + Mantic's videos = relatively painless intro to DE/wet shaving.

Thank you for the post.
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Postby CMur12 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:21 pm

Hoos wrote:This should be a sticky.

Being new to DE shaving, even though I've shaved for 30 years, Bargepole hits it right on the head.

This post + Mantic's videos = relatively painless intro to DE/wet shaving.

Thank you for the post.

I agree.

It is also a great contribution to the culture of this forum.

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Postby jww » Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:51 am

Fabulous read - whether you agree entirely or not with all content. A true Shaving Editorial - it deserves a front-page column in The Wall Street Journal :)

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Re: What I've learned so far...

Postby JimReynolds » Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:23 pm

Great post. Now to touch on something specific from it...

Bargepole wrote:Because the BBS is for US. Women, on the whole, either don't care or actively don't like it. They like us being men. They don't want our faces to feel like a baby's bottom or any other part of a baby or a women. They want our faces to feel like MEN'S faces.

I'm a 26 year old single guy who is always looking to improve his appearance here and there to help increase the odds of, well, not being single anymore. So my latest thought process has been about whether women like men who are completely clean shaven ("BBS") or who have some stubble (the "scruffy" look). After speaking with a number of people, plus reading a whole bunch of posts about it on places like Yahoo Answers, it seems that most women are fine with some scruffiness (including a decent portion actually preferring the scruff), and a smaller percentage saying that they must have the clean shaven guy. As someone who can't get BBS without using problem-causing angles (ATG), it's comforting to know this.

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Postby Johnny_Z » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:24 pm

Anybody who writes like that and has Cthluhu as his avatar is cool in my book. =D>
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Postby nodaktim » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:51 pm


I missed this thread when originally posted (being absent and all). I want to thank to Clive for bringing it to my attention now, though.

Michael, you sir have quite a gift with the written word. I very much enjoy your posts. They are just magical. Thank you for the informative and entertaining read.
~ Tim ~

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