How does shaving with a combed razor feel?

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How does shaving with a combed razor feel?

Post by Kazaam » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:21 pm

I don't have one but have always been curious. It seems like you wouldnt be able to get as close, and i can see no good reason why some razors have them, but I am sure im missing something as a great many razors have them.

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Post by SmallTank » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:04 pm

2 kinds..open and closed..open has "teeth"..closed is just a straight bar..IMO..open comb is a bit easier..closed comb tends to cover more of the DE blade..plus open comb is easier to wash lather off..im sure thats why they were made..just my thoughts :D

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Post by Short Round » Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:38 am

I have a merkur HD with a bar and an Ikon classic with a comb. In practical use I feel no difference on my face from the comb. The open comb just rinses faster and sometimes if my angle gets off leaves funny comb marks in the lather.

I guess some of the old open combs especially the brass ones if dropped would get a tooth or two bent out of shape pretty much ruining them. The closed bar is stronger I would guess as it's bar is fully supported by it's length.
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Post by brothers » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:05 pm

I like open comb razors by a narrow margin, and I can't tell anybody why, because I don't know why. Maybe the ones I have just happen to be slightly less mild than the Tech. I like the way they shave. Anyway, there are two kinds of open comb heads, if not more than two. Some have the blade sitting flat on the head with no gap, while others have a gap between the blade and the top of the base plate. This has given me the understanding that if there is a gap, 100% of the edge surface is actively cutting whiskers. If there's no gap, and the blades sitting down on the surface of the base plate, only 50% of the edge is cutting any whiskers, and the other 50% is wasted.
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Re: How does shaving with a combed razor feel?

Post by L. Martino » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:30 pm

Kazaam wrote:I don't have one but have always been curious. It seems like you wouldnt be able to get as close, and i can see no good reason why some razors have them, but I am sure im missing something as a great many razors have them.

thanks!
Hi there,

Having used lots of razors over the years, I can tell you that generally an OC type will shave me closer than one with a safety bar. The comfort level is also different between the two.

Far as how an OC feels on my face goes, it's like using a tiny little rake............heh. You should at least try one and see what's up. My advice would be to stay away from any razor with an Old Type head, since those can bite like a rabid bulldog unless you're very careful.

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Re: How does shaving with a combed razor feel?

Post by 2clfrwrds » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:42 pm

L. Martino wrote:...My advice would be to stay away from any razor with an Old Type head, since those can bite like a rabid bulldog unless you're very careful...
No lie, Martin. My guess is it's related to DE blades back in the day being significantly thicker than they are now. The razors weren't designed to be rabid bulldogs (nice analogy, dude).

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Post by Zot! » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:51 am

I have a Merkur 15c open comb which I will try to describe. This is the one where the blade lays on the bottom plate until the very edge without a gap, although in reality there is a tiny one so that the entire edge of the blade does cut. To me, it feels the same on my face. The teeth do allow more of the lather to reach the blade edge and the facial skin while making a stroke. And because there is no big gap between the blade and bottom plate, it does keep the surface of the blade cleaner where the surfaces do meet. It seems one has to get the angle right on the open comb because of the small gap, but that isn't hard to do. If you define aggressiveness as having a wide range of angles available where a razor will cut or having a large blade exposure, then I would not say my Merkur 15c is aggressive at all. The teeth make it easier to thin sideburns or goattee and such because it funnels the hair. It doesn't flatten like a straight bar would. I think this may be the reason that open combs were the first safety razor design-- because of men's fashion for some facial hair. I hope this all makes sense.

[edit] It may be that pressure could cause the skin to bunch up differently, due to the amount of space between the comb and blade, than the Merkur straight bar version and cause some razor burn.
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Re: How does shaving with a combed razor feel?

Post by L. Martino » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:01 am

2clfrwrds wrote:
L. Martino wrote:...My advice would be to stay away from any razor with an Old Type head, since those can bite like a rabid bulldog unless you're very careful...
No lie, Martin. My guess is it's related to DE blades back in the day being significantly thicker than they are now. The razors weren't designed to be rabid bulldogs (nice analogy, dude).

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Hi Glenn

Here's a pic of my very own bad doggie. This one's a 1919 Bulldog that I never use and can't bring myself to sell. The sellers remorse would be brutal.....heh.

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Post by franz » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:30 am

That's a beaut. :)

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Post by ScottB » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:49 pm

I like my 1918 Old Type. With care it delivers a very close comfortable shave. It is very good if you've skipped a day or two on the weekend for instance.

Not sure why everyone thinks they are so treacherous. I've heard some of the NEWs are far more aggressive. There is a fair amount of blade exposure so some SR experience doesn't hurt.

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Post by ScottB » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:45 pm

Uh, didn't mean to kill the thread. OC razors are very cool. I might even try the -41.

That Bulldog is *gorgeous*.

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Post by Racso_MS » Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:20 pm

The best way to describe how an Open Comb (OC) razor performs is to actually try one. The preparation, technique, and after shave techniques are the same. Just like a non OC razor, experimentation is necessary to find the correct comination in order to receive the shave you desire. So this won't be an immediate decision on your part. You need to try different razor blade/razor combos to find the correct one. You also need to relax, take your time, and concentrate on your technique. Follow the basics and you will find a comination that works for you.

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Enjoy your shave...

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Post by L. Martino » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:46 pm

ScottB wrote:I like my 1918 Old Type. With care it delivers a very close comfortable shave. It is very good if you've skipped a day or two on the weekend for instance.

Not sure why everyone thinks they are so treacherous. I've heard some of the NEWs are far more aggressive. There is a fair amount of blade exposure so some SR experience doesn't hurt.

Scott
Hi there,

You're one of the lucky ones who can tolerate the Old Type shaves. Never been able to get past how uncomfortable that thing is on my face, but it does provide a very close shave.....much more so than usual.

Years ago I tried the New heads (long and short tooth versions), the New Improved types, and the New Deluxe razors like a Norfolk. That New Deluxe head was almost, but not quite as aggressive as the Old Type, Heh, ended up selling that nice looking piece and the member loves the way it shaves.

The only open comb in my rotation's a 1934 type Aristocrat. One of the milder ones, with a head somewhat similar to the Sheraton/Senator types.

Funny how we all have our druthers,

Martin

Oh,,,,thanks to you and Franz for the nice words about the Bulldog. I believe that one was sold in Germany originally, since it's a German case and has some German blades in the holders.
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Post by Araner » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:55 pm

I've been using this Gillette New (short teeth) open comb for a few years and I love the way it shaves. Very smooth when paired with a Derby blade.

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Post by Sargon » Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:55 pm

the old type is considered agressive? really? I've foudn mine *VERY* tame so far. heck I delibrately loosened the head and pushed on the blade to make it into a semi slant to up the agression!

Seriously the only razor I use that feels milder than my old is a 40s sueprspeed, and even that's arguable. I'd say it's mildert than any of my superspeeds, much less my slant or any of my adjustables on medium or higher settings...

I'm using one of my midler blades (a red IP) in it. Guess I should try an astra or feather in both regular and ghetto slant mode. If that does the trick, then I may be selling quite a few razors and picking up another old type (for travel) . Tomorrow, however is my birthday, so I am sparing no expense and using my very best (proven) tools and consumables, taking my time, and seeing just how good a shave I can get when I go all out.

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Post by Squire » Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:23 am

Well happy birthday Sargon, hope it proves to be a good one. If you wish to post the details of your shave we have a Forum for that, SOTD.
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