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Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:18 pm
by ShadowsDad
Gary, was that Taylors Pork roll? It's incredibly expensive to have shipped. When I saw the cost I didn't drop the hammer on it. Now I either wait for folks from that area to drive north or I make my own. IMO, the home made is superior since I can make it as sour as I want. Maybe my taste buds are getting less sensitive with age, but my homemade Kielbasa likes LOTS of garlic and spices and my Taylor Ham needs to cure for the max' time.

I don't want to hijack the thread, but I needed to ask. Back to regular programming. :-)

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:21 pm
by ShadowsDad
Gentlemans relish is a new one for me. I'll keep and eye open for it.

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:47 pm
by Gareth
Brian, it’s not easy to come by but is very, very potent stuff.

Gareth

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:27 pm
by brothers
Yes, Taylor's. I had forgotten that. I didn't go through with ordering it because of the expense involved, and the 50/50 chance that it wouldn't be the very best tasting thing I ever tasted. :)

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:11 am
by aih
So, I bought Marmite from Amazon and have tried it (just now). I used it on German black bread with butter, and sharp cheddar on the side. I also tried it neat off the butter knife.

It is pretty good. Really salty. But an interesting taste. I like it.

Maybe I will buy the big squeeze next time.

One thing though. I was expecting it to be the consistency of something like mustard. It is in fact like molasses or honey. Still, pretty good.

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:46 am
by aih
Does Marmite need to be refrigerated? Searching around I get the impression the answer is no.

This morning I reflexively put the just opened jar in the fridge.

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:54 am
by Rufus
aih wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:46 am
Does Marmite need to be refrigerated? Searching around I get the impression the answer is no.

This morning I reflexively put the just opened jar in the fridge.
Glad that you like Marmite. I love the stuff, but have to use it in moderation or else it over powers my taste buds if it’s just on bread/crackers unaccompanied by anything else, e.g. cheese. No it doesn’t need to be refrigerated; I think that would make it more tar-like.

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:26 am
by aih
Thanks.

The taste does dominate. My strong black coffee I was drinking at the same time had a celery aftertaste. That was disconcerting, but it didn't linger into following cups.

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:02 pm
by ShadowsDad
It's used in an almost microscopic layer. :) OK, maybe not quite that thin, but I exaggerate to make the point. It's not used like butter. A little goes a very long way.

I wonder how a small amount would work in soup or gravy as a flavor enhancer?

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:53 pm
by Rufus
ShadowsDad wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:02 pm
It's used in an almost microscopic layer. :) OK, maybe not quite that thin, but I exaggerate to make the point. It's not used like butter. A little goes a very long way.

I wonder how a small amount would work in soup or gravy as a flavor enhancer?
Good question, but in my opening post the recipe calls for just 1 tsp in the spaghetti.

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:24 am
by ShadowsDad
Thanks! My memory just isn't that good. You're absolutely correct of course.

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:54 am
by drmoss_ca
ShadowsDad wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:02 pm
It's used in an almost microscopic layer. :) OK, maybe not quite that thin, but I exaggerate to make the point. It's not used like butter. A little goes a very long way.

I wonder how a small amount would work in soup or gravy as a flavor enhancer?
When I was first cooking with Pippa (>40 years ago) I used to use Marmite for vegetarian gravies as Bovril was right out. It works, but has limited power as it all goes wrong if you use too much, just like Lea & Perrins used for the same purpose. Part of the ongoing vegetarian search for umami.

C.

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:23 am
by brothers
. . . . it all goes wrong if you use too much, just like Lea & Perrins used for the same purpose.
This helps me understand what Marmite is. I've made the Lea & Perrins mistake just once, and I'll never forget it.

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:55 am
by ShadowsDad
Gary, just to possibly clarify things, the 2 taste nothing like each other. Marmite has umami taste but only when used sparingly.

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:46 pm
by aih
Searching around, found a recipe for a Bloody Mary with Marmite. Haven't tried it. Don't know if I will. Maybe one day.

But I did use Marmite in hot water like a tea. It's good. The saltiness is diluted away, can't taste it. Funny thing is (not funny haha) the taste is a lot like Molasses tea. (EDIT: That was on the first few sips. After that, a little like instead of a lot like Molasses. But there is also a component that is a very weak roast beef like taste. Interesting.) This will be a regular for me.

I like this stuff. Shouldn't have waited 20-25 years to try it.

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:23 pm
by drmoss_ca
We ought not to confuse Marmite beginners with other uses. Toasted wholewheat bread, butter and then a thin but even smear of Marmite will tell you if you are worthy.*

C.
*For certain values of 'worthy', no doubt related to the ability to relish the taste of concentrated and somewhat fermented yeast. It's not my job to tell you how you might practice for that.

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:35 am
by aih
I'm copying. But yes I'm learning. I also have a long history of not doing what I'm supposed to do, a condition since childhood.

I like the Marmite tea.

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:49 pm
by brothers
ShadowsDad wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:55 am
Gary, just to possibly clarify things, the 2 taste nothing like each other. Marmite has umami taste but only when used sparingly.
Bryan, I understand. They're two different substances and tastes, but the similarity to me is when a small element of something of a powerful nature overwhelms a dish in an unintended manner. :oops:

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:37 pm
by ShadowsDad
OK, so I tried it in a quick homemade beef soup. I probably should have divided it into 2 portions; one with, and one w/o. It was good, but it was the day that my flu, or I think it was the flu, showed up. The old Marmite got the blame for the GI upset and subsequent bathroom trips, so the bugs in the septic system got to enjoy the entire remainder of the jar. Then came some research... As already written, Marmite can't go bad even if left out of the refrigerator (I wasted that jar!). In fact my new jar says to NOT refrigerate it. I found out what it's made of, yada, yada. Loaded with B vitamins, but since it's made from spent brewers yeast that makes sense. The Marmite site is very informative. BTW, I had always pronounced it "mar might", but I found that it's a French world and best pronounced "mar meet". The word meaning a traditional vessel that a fish stew is cooked in and is seen on many of the jar labels. It's not on the 250 g jar I just received but it was on the old one.

So after figuring out that it was the flu that I had*, I reordered. It came by Royal Mail today. I think it was $8.50 shipped from the UK and it's the 250g size. I think the ad I bought from claimed that's close to 8 ounces. I did try to find it at my local supermarket but when I asked they looked at me as though I had two heads. They carried it when I bought my first jar, just not anymore. Amazon to the rescue. I almost didn't buy it from that vendor because it didn't show me that it was a Prime item (free shipping). But "honey" told me that it was the best deal available and sure enough, free shipping from the vendor. Honey was right. If you use Amazon and don't use "honey" you should. It does the work of finding the best price taking into account selling price, shipping, tax, yada, yada and does it at computer speed. I had to wait a bit longer but I was in no hurry. If I had croaked before it arrived it would be a non-issue anyway. :)

*What threw me was that I had been testing a new pain killer and I had no fever or body aches. I thought I was getting bronchitis again, but I couldn't explain the runs. It was by far the easiest flu I'd ever had! If it hadn't been for the cough and the runs I never would have known that I was sick at all.

Re: For Marmite lovers only

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:07 am
by ShadowsDad
What to have for breakfast this morning?

I wound up making a egg/sausage/cheese sandwich. But I put the lightest of smears of marmite on the toasted roll. That took the place of the salt on the egg. It was tasty. It had a richer flavor (meatier?) than w/o the marmite.