unsafe soap/cream

salbev · Post by **salbev** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:32 am

i have read that some soaps/creams can discolor a finest/silvertip brush...which soaps and creams are to be avoided when using a finest/silvertip brush?

thank you very much.

rustyblade · Post by **rustyblade** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:38 am

salbev wrote:i have read that some soaps/creams can discolor a finest/silvertip brush...which soaps and creams are to be avoided when using a finest/silvertip brush?

thank you very much.

I don't think soaps should worry you very much. Even soaps such as Trumpers are not intensely coloured like creams can be. As for creams, anything with strong colouring. All the roses, lavenders, etc. I probably wouldn't worry about the lighter coloured sandalwoods though.

Sfox7076 · Post by **Sfox7076** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:37 am

And I don't worry about staining a brush as I use it. And I know I use it. I am not interested in resale value. If I use it enough that the brush gets a stain, then I guess it's a good brush...

Shawn

notthesharpest · Post by **notthesharpest** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:34 am

When you have a cream with strong dye in it, you'll know.
I had a Taylor's lavender that was so purple, it gave purple lather.

Post by **Sam** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:54 am

I have not had a problem with Taylors Rose or Trumper Violet but men like Squire and Gordon have noticed it. Since Gordon and Squire have been at it longer than I, I'm gonna take their advice to the bank. I do not use colored creams other than Coates Sandalwood (with a light ecru color at that ) and Trumper Sandalwood soap with my Rooney Finest brushes.

Sam

Post by **ichabod** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:29 am

Sam wrote:I have not had a problem with Taylors Rose or Trumper Violet but men like Squire and Gordon have noticed it. Since Gordon and Squire have been at it longer than I, I'm gonna take their advice to the bank. I do not use colored creams other than Coates Sandalwood (with a light ecru color at that ) and Trumper Sandalwood soap with my Rooney Finest brushes.

Sam

That's about where I draw the line, too. I plan to baby my sabrooney finest and keep it as long as possible, so I'm trying to start out right. Plus - it was an excuse to buy the SMFIII.

Mama Bear · Post by **Mama Bear** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:22 pm

The only time you should have an issue with this is when colorants or dyes are added to the shave cream. Shaving cream requires that the ingredients are listed to (unlike soap which doesn't require this) and you can always look towards then end of your list of ingredients for Red #2 or other things like this.

For a shaving cream to actually have purple lather, there had to be a huge excess of coloring in it.. that is horrible!

Troy · Post by **Troy** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:03 am

salbev wrote:i have read that some soaps/creams can discolor a finest/silvertip brush...which soaps and creams are to be avoided when using a finest/silvertip brush?

thank you very much.

The strongest dyed cream I've come across is D. R. Harris lavender. However, any discoloration that I've seen when using it usually disappears within a shave or two with other creams. Of course, I'm using a brush with badger hair a level down from the Finest/Manchurian/HMW level.

I suppose if you used the Harris Lavender cream every day that there could be some permanent discoloration. This cream only makes it into my "rotation" about once every two to three weeks, so I can't really comment on the effect of extensive back-to-back usage.

-Troy

JackieMartling · Post by **JackieMartling** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:31 pm

Every time I use a strongly colored cream, my brush shows it. It usually comes out after a couple of shaves with uncolored creams, although it is possible there is still a trace amount of the color remaining that isn't noticeable, but still effects how the brush looks. I used to worry about it, but I don't anymore. I use the Plisson HMW and Simpson Super grades because of their physical properties, and I will use those brushes until they die. While I like the look, I've stopped worrying if they continue to look pristine, as they still look "good enough." But, if you want to keep your brush looking tip-top, avoiding heavily dyed creams is a good idea. The only three staining creams I've personally experienced have been Harris lavender, Trumper rose, and Trumper violet. All three of these are very intensely colored, and all three leave a perceptible hue in my brushes. Still, that doesn't stop me from using them - except for the violet, which I don't use because I don't like the smell, not because of the color.

~ Nathan

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:36 pm

Trumper Rose stains my brushes, but, like Nathan said, it comes out after a few shaves with some of my soaps. I wouldn't worry about it.

Horse Shaver · Post by **Horse Shaver** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:07 pm

Yep, Trumper's Violets and Taylor's Rose creams both will add a slight tinge of color to the white tips but after a shave or two of something else the coloration is gone. I don't sweat it in the least. I shave with all my Brushes...Finest, Super, Manchurian--you name it.

JackieMartling · Post by **JackieMartling** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:38 am

Horse Shaver wrote:I shave with all my Brushes...Finest, Super, Manchurian--you name it.

Funny you should mention Manchurian. The one brush I won't use with any colored cream is my CH3 Manchurian, because I am trying to keep it pristine. I seems to me it's a pretty rare brush, and it's the only brush where I care more about it's "cachet" than its utility. Otherwise, like you, I don't coddle my brushes, and I don't worry about them; that goes for the HMW, too.

~ Nathan

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