An Old Trick in a New Guise

fisherc · Post by **fisherc** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:14 pm

Do you guys know if the T and H hard soap is identical to L'Occitane's hard soap ? The ingredients list is identical and to the best of my knowledge the T and H soap is the only "English" hard soap that contains mineral oil/paraffinum liquidum.

Chris

tigert · Post by **tigert** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:18 am

I have used the L'occitane soap but not T&H, but I believe T&H soap is unscented and the L'occitane soap I have is definately scented. The L'occitane soap is decent, but I much prefer Trumpers soaps or even C&E.

fisherc · Post by **fisherc** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:19 pm

The L'occitane soap is $12 and can be found at any L'occitane store or on the web at http://www.loccitane.com. I used it this AM and it is decent, but not the best I have used. In hard soaps, I still prefer Boellis of Napoli.

Chris

bernards66 · Post by **bernards66** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:38 pm

Chris, While I suppose that it's possible, I doubt that the l'Occitane and the T&H are the same soap. In the past, the Floris shave soaps also contained mineral oil, although they may not today. Those Floris soaps also lathered copiously, much like the T&H and the Joris. I'll have to pry either my T&H or the Trumpers Lime soap out of it's wooden bowl, and try this business of flooding it with water prior to lathering it. Sounds promising. I must admit though, that I am fond of those tasteful wooden bowls. Regards, Gordon

bernards66 · Post by **bernards66** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:27 pm

Chris (dr), Well, I've used English shave soaps for over twenty years, but I've always left them in their niffty wooden bowls. Never really occured to me to do otherwise. With the Joris soap, of course, I had to find a suitable cup, as it is sold without a bowl. I did think that the Joris lathered uncommon well, but I simple chalked it up to the soap itself ( which, I think, it partially was ), and didn't give the cup a thought. But this AM, remembering your suggestion, I recalled that I had a loose cake of Penhaligon's shave soap in the closet. I dragged it out, and fitted it into a sturdy tea cup, and then filled the cup to the brim with hot water, and let it sit while I readied my razor, brush, etc. Poured the water off, and yes, I would say that I definately got more good lather then I had with that soap before. A definate improvement, no doubt about it. Thanks for the tip. Regards, Gordon

Post by **Sam** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:27 am

ok, someone riddle me this: does the hot water on the soap bit work better than the use of that rival water heater method?

sam

Post by **Sam** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:51 am

Chris: I was unclear. THis post was read by me to indicate that some pour just hot tap water on the cake soap, let it sit a couple of minutes and then pour the water out and get a great lather that way. Joel and others have posted elsewhere about using a rival hot water heater and joel has some pics showing he soaks his brush in the hot water he just made. Is he damaging his brush? and has anyone done both ways and have a preference?

sam

Post by **Sam** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:10 pm

so, i guess chris you are saying that maybe the hot water pot is not a good idea for the brush? so many have posted that they have gotten great, great lather from that. i mean, maybe 6 or 7 guys ran out to get this device. i dont know that i would SOAk the brush, but dip it into the water for what, 10 seconds, enough to get the bristles hot?

wonder what gordon and others say about the effect on the brush.

sam

Post by **Sam** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:58 pm

ok, i tried the hot water on top of a soap tonight, a cake of classicshaving. while i did get great, i mean, great lather, it kinda melted the soap cake. anyone else have this experience with the classic soaps? if it continues to lather like this and not melt, ill stock up on a ton of rays soaps, get one trumper violet and a taylor rose and i am good to go

sam

clownjuggles · Post by **clownjuggles** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:15 pm

Sam,

Did you try the Joris Soap with this method?

Post by **Sam** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:19 pm

i have about half a cake of rays soap sitting on top of a joris cake soap that all rests in a mug that i got from ray. the joris was almost a perfect fit. but rays soap melted on me, kinda like they said the conk did, when i used hot tap water and soaked the cake in the water for like 20 seconds

sam

clownjuggles · Post by **clownjuggles** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:08 pm

Sam,

YOu said you had the classic soap on top of the joris?

What about melting a piece of a cake of classic to fill in the loose edges?

Post by **VinceFX** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:54 am

I am currently using the Rival hot pot in my shaving routine. I only use creams and technically the water is not boiling when I dip my brush in it. I bring the water to a boil and then pour it into a large mug. Once the heat source is removed the water is no longer boiling but it is VERY hot. I don't think it is damaging the brush. Actually, the brush is softer and more supple that it has ever been. Go figure.

Vince