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The state of the current English Shaving soaps

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:08 pm
by adhoc
Which of the English shaving soaps available on the market today produce decent lathers (i.e not thin and bubbly)? DR Harris for sure but I know that Penhaligon have reformulated their soaps (again) and my Sartorial shaving soap do work fine and as I understand it have Floris reformulated their shaving soaps too and they are decent now again as well (?). But how about Trumper, TOBS and T&H?

Re: The state of the current English Shaving soaps

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:59 am
by Bill_K
Have you thought about Mitchell's Wool Fat?

I've been using it for about a week and a half and I heartily recommend it. Some have complained that it's difficult to lather, but that hasn't been my experience, even with the very hard water in my town (12.6 gpg). To me it has a subtle scent, produces "Santa Claus" lather, and is very slick.

To get around the difficult lathering I used my kitchen cheese grater to grate it and then repacked it into two separate containers. When shaving, I add enough water to cover the soap and then let it sit while I'm looking after other stuff (my brush needs soaking anyway). I then dump the soap water, gently squeeze most of the water out of the brush, and then load the brush with the soap container held upside-down (i.e. bristles facing up) for about 30 seconds.

I've been at the traditional shaving gig for only about 5 months now, and my best shaves have been with MWF. However, as they say in this list, YMMV.

Re: The state of the current English Shaving soaps

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:46 am
by adhoc
I have tried Wool Fat but I think its too hard to make a stable lather with my hard water and I find the scent a little dull but I might buy another puck in the future to see if my lathering abilities have improved. I did remember that the soap had excellent post shave though, probably the best post shave of any soap I've tried.

Re: The state of the current English Shaving soaps

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:36 am
by Bill_K
I've been kicking around the idea of adding a drop or two of essential oil to the bowl before I lather. I have lemon on hand (I'm making my own pre-shave oil) but I'd also like to locate some sandalwood. That might just be the ticket to add a little variety to the MWF.

Re: The state of the current English Shaving soaps

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 7:50 am
by brothers
This thread is fairly recent, but it seems we have failed to discuss the new tallow based formula of Cyril Salter's shaving soap which is quite good, and quite economical to buy. Made in England. If you haven't tried it, I suggest giving it a try in pursuit of the best of the current shaving soaps. I found mine at Connaught shaving. It comes in two sizes.

Re: The state of the current English Shaving soaps

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:45 am
by jww
I have been away too long -- MWF is the only reliable English soap for me. It has never failed me. Nothing like sheep squeezings for shaving luxury.


To be fair, I have found DR Harris to be good soaps, but have reduced my lathering products significantly over the last 4 years. As I run out of product, I find I have not replaced it. My only real soaps are MWF, DRH lavender, DRH Arlington and Edwin Jagger Sea Buckthorn - which I acquired a good few years ago and is still pretty doggone good. Not sure what their soaps are like these days though. They discontinued Sea Buckthorn some time ago (shortly after I purchased it, as I recall).

Re: The state of the current English Shaving soaps

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:56 pm
by Brutus
Edwin Jagger cooperates with Mühle in Germany and when you mentioned sea buckthorn it reminded me of the Mühle sea buckthorn shaving soap.

Mühle still distributes it and if the original puck was small to start with, just about 2½“ in diameter, chances are that it may be the same product.

See here: https://www.muehle-shaving.com/en/Shop/ ... ving-soap/

I tried Mühle soaps at one stage, but had to make space in my cabinet and their soaps fell victim to it.



B.

Re: The state of the current English Shaving soaps

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:09 am
by drmoss_ca
I believe the Jagger/Muhle soaps were made by Haslinger at one time, but I think that might have changed.

C.

Re: The state of the current English Shaving soaps

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:53 am
by jww
The Mühle certainly looks identical in size and shape to the EJ puck I have. Mine is a few years old and still smells as good and lathers as well as the first day I broke open the box.

Re: The state of the current English Shaving soaps

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:24 am
by Rufus
jww wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:53 am
The Mühle certainly looks identical in size and shape to the EJ puck I have. Mine is a few years old and still smells as good and lathers as well as the first day I broke open the box.
EJ Sea Buckthorn is the only shaving soap I’ve truly come to terms with, but then I’m a dyed in the wool (never conquered MWF, however) shaving cream man.

Re: The state of the current English Shaving soaps

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:54 am
by TRBeck
brothers wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 7:50 am
This thread is fairly recent, but it seems we have failed to discuss the new tallow based formula of Cyril Salter's shaving soap which is quite good, and quite economical to buy. Made in England. If you haven't tried it, I suggest giving it a try in pursuit of the best of the current shaving soaps. I found mine at Connaught shaving. It comes in two sizes.
I agree, Gary. I have used this soap 12-15 times in the last month, and I think it is probably good enough to be a grail soap for a lot of guys. Its scent is classic, clean, and decidedly English. Its lather is brilliant and forms easily. It's a hard soap and will last for ages. It's inexpensive. If I could only have one English hard soap currently in production, this would be it. Even if you included vintage formulations, it would certainly contend with the old Taylor and tallowate Penhaligon's soaps. Great soap.

Re: The state of the current English Shaving soaps

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:40 pm
by Brutus
drmoss_ca wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:09 am
I believe the Jagger/Muhle soaps were made by Haslinger at one time, but I think that might have changed.

C.
That may have been the case in the past (+4 years ago), but as a regular Haslinger user, the Mühle soaps that I tired then were clearly not on the same level.
They got the job done but were unremarkable and when I had to make space in my cabinet they were quickly retired, while Haslinger (then tallow, now tallow-free) is one of my favourites.

Liked the small Mühle ceramic bowls with their lids though.


B

Re: The state of the current English Shaving soaps

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:47 pm
by libertine
I have found and like Phoenix and Beau. Mild scent (which I prefer) and good face feel after my shave.

Slight plus's include: husband and wife team, nice artwork, historical name and matching scent.

Re: The state of the current English Shaving soaps

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:33 am
by brothers
Phoenix and Beau makes a very good tallow shaving soap. The same can be said for OSP (Obsessive Soap Professional). Both of which I found at Connaught.

Re: The state of the current English Shaving soaps

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:44 pm
by brothers
After 3 latherings and two shaves over the past two days, I agree that this hard tallow soap made in England is outstanding. I do enjoy the slightly spicy and pleasant scent. And it is comparatively inexpensive.