WHICH BADGER BRUSH HAS THE STRONGEST BACKBONE?

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WHICH BADGER BRUSH HAS THE STRONGEST BACKBONE?

Post by vpayne » Tue May 14, 2013 8:08 pm

I am looking to save time in research by asking experienced members which badger brush has the strongest backbone for face lathering? I am currently looking at Shavemac D01 2 band and Rooney 2XL. Any help would be appreciated.
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Post by M6Classic » Wed May 15, 2013 6:49 am

Probably the smaller sized...#12 or #14...Plisson European grays. However, I still believe all Plissons to be way over-priced today and not up to the standards set by vintage 1972-1982 Plisson brushes.

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Post by bernards66 » Wed May 15, 2013 9:14 pm

Yeah, the Plisson European Grey brushes I've handled ( never owned one ) have been pretty stiff. My Rooney Emillion ( from the first batch made ) is very firm due to the incredible density of the knot. Some Simpson Chubby Supers that I've seen have also been very firm indeed. Between the two models that you mention, I don't know as I've never owned or seen either of them.
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Post by nteeman » Thu May 16, 2013 7:33 am

My Simpson Eagle is a pretty stiff brush.
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Post by Ouchmychin » Thu May 16, 2013 12:05 pm

My Simpson Duke II in best is my stiffest brush. Much tighter packed. It is one of the old original Simpsons. I don't know if they are still stiff.
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Post by fallingwickets » Thu May 16, 2013 12:09 pm

probably becks induced imagination, but the persian jar felt like nails to me

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Post by jww » Fri May 17, 2013 5:34 am

Ouchmychin wrote:My Simpson Duke II in best is my stiffest brush. Much tighter packed. It is one of the old original Simpsons. I don't know if they are still stiff.
My new Duke II is also of the stiff variety - and still no shedding. I am crossing my fingers the knot stays intact. 8-[
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Post by blantyre » Sun May 19, 2013 5:35 pm

The D01 2 band has plenty of backbone. It also has the advantage of being in production. Rooney finest and the old Simpson Manchurian also had a lot of backbone but they will be very hard to find these days. I don't know how the current Simpson 2 band is - probably pretty good.

Whatever the bristle, a short loft will help - 50 mm on a 23 mm knot would be the max I'd go if I wanted stiffness.
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Post by desertbadger » Mon May 20, 2013 1:09 pm

For me it's my Rooney Emillion in Finest grade. Very stiff, but I like it.

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Post by blantyre » Mon May 20, 2013 7:11 pm

Ouchmychin wrote:My Simpson Duke II in best is my stiffest brush. Much tighter packed. It is one of the old original Simpsons. I don't know if they are still stiff.
"Old Original Simpson" makes it sound like a Vulfix.
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Post by Ouchmychin » Mon May 20, 2013 8:20 pm

Why, who's got the name now?
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Post by blantyre » Thu May 23, 2013 5:21 pm

Ouchmychin wrote:Why, who's got the name now?
It struck me as amusing because Vulfix brushes are called Old Original and they bought Simpson a few years ago. But you called an old Simpson old original to designate that it was a Somerset made Simpson from before the Vulfix acquisition.
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Post by Capt. Pat » Fri May 24, 2013 5:47 am

Simpson Chubby
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Post by JRTASTER » Fri May 24, 2013 8:51 am

does Bernd at Shavemac still offer the option of building a brush to your personal specs, including adding more badger to increase density/"backbone?"

my Duke 2 and chubby 1 mid-grade badgers, Somerset-era, both offer superior backbone but soft points. These days, hard soaps are my choices and these two Simpsons, and two others I own, stand up well to soaps, and creams as well, come to think of it.

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Post by numcks » Sat May 25, 2013 8:29 pm

These three (click on the images to enlarge):


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(Simpsons Eagle in Pure)

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Post by marsos52 » Sun May 26, 2013 4:10 pm

mike your picture of the two band Shavemac really looks nice

i've always wanted to have a shavemac, love the handle design too

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Post by numcks » Sun May 26, 2013 11:11 pm

marsos52 wrote:mike your picture of the two band Shavemac really looks nice

i've always wanted to have a shavemac, love the handle design too

marc
Thanks, but I can't take credit for it. It is/was on the Shavemac website. It is a density monster. Small knot, but probably more hair packed in than some 25-30mm knots.
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Post by Martin » Mon May 27, 2013 8:20 am

Mike, how would you describe your "Pure" badger hair?

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stiff

Post by malocchio » Mon May 27, 2013 10:18 am

Semogue owners club...very thick with super strong backbone.

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Post by numcks » Mon May 27, 2013 8:27 pm

Martin wrote:Mike, how would you describe your "Pure" badger hair?
Lots of backbone, but not stiff like some low end boars. A bit scritchy and very scrubby, but not as prickly like some clipped badgers (think Tweezerman). Less dense than denser Finest or Silvertip knots due to the thicker hair shafts, so the brush has very good flow-through and lather holding/release capacity. It's probably my favorite badger for use when I have not shaved for a couple of days. Great exfoliation and beard set-up.
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