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VDH Badger

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:51 am
by nicodemus38
I got one of these buggers, and its ODD.

it reeks of burnt plastic. ive been trying all sorts of shampoos and soaps, proraso blue cant touch it.

Im wondering if its jjust a cheap Chinese VDH thing and not indicative of all badger hair?

Re: VDH Badger

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:11 pm
by CMur12
I'm not familiar with this brush, but most badger hair comes from China now, as do most inexpensive badger brushes. I wouldn't be surprised if it were very simply a cheap badger brush made in China of very low-grade badger hair.

- Murray

Re: VDH Badger

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:25 pm
by pausted
I had one of these that I got in a kit when the new VDH luxury line of soaps first came out. I used the brush for awhile but it never stopped shedding. I finally pitched it. I never did detect any strange odor though.

Re: VDH Badger

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:15 pm
by nicodemus38
its a cross on burnt plastic and mold.

Re: VDH Badger

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:22 pm
by nicodemus38
well it smells better now, but

its getting scratchier and scratchier every time I use it. I don't get it.

Re: VDH Badger

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:20 pm
by CMur12
Nic, I've never heard of a badger brush (or any other type, for that matter) getting scratchier and scratchier. I certainly can't explain it, either.

- Murray

Re: VDH Badger

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:11 am
by brothers
Nic, put all brush strife behind and get these:
1. A current generation synthetic
2. A premium grade boar
3. A. Kent BK4 badger

You're no beginner, you've been around the block.Get all three and you can make this happen.

Re: VDH Badger

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:34 am
by Brutus
brothers wrote:Nic, put all brush strife behind and get these:
1. A current generation synthetic
2. .....
Particularly concur with the recommendation for Nic to get a current generation synthetic (e.g. Mühle Silvertip Fibre).

Not only perform these brushes extremely well, are robust and dry quickly (which makes them perfect for travel), they also make it easy to create a nice lather from some of the more difficult soaps.
This might help Nic come to terms with (Cella) soap he has been struggling with and that most of know as a very good performer.


B.

Re: VDH Badger

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:48 pm
by CMur12
brothers wrote:Nic, put all brush strife behind and get these:
1. A current generation synthetic
2. A premium grade boar
3. A. Kent BK4 badger

You're no beginner, you've been around the block.Get all three and you can make this happen.
Excellent advice, Gary! This truly gets to the heart of the matter and resolves all confusion and all problems.

- Murray

Re: VDH Badger

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:11 am
by nicodemus38
I don't really get the hype of a premium grade boar. a lot of fellows who will spend 50$ for a tub of soap, or 80$ for a vintage unopened box of razor blades love to us the same omega I get. it gets beautiful reviews everywhere.

But the vdh badger, I used it again. and its actually gotten to be more scratchier then my omega 49.

ive felt paint brushes, boar and badger that were better in softness then this vdh. the handle I admit is pretty decent.

Re: VDH Badger

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:31 am
by brothers
nicodemus38 wrote:I don't really get the hype of a premium grade boar. a lot of fellows who will spend 50$ for a tub of soap, or 80$ for a vintage unopened box of razor blades love to us the same omega I get. it gets beautiful reviews everywhere.

But the vdh badger, I used it again. and its actually gotten to be more scratchier then my omega 49.

ive felt paint brushes, boar and badger that were better in softness then this vdh. the handle I admit is pretty decent.
Nic, there is probably a misconception that a premium boar is expensive. Omega 20106 and 20107 (maybe a few others) are around $10 or $15. Same for some of the Semogue and Zenith boars. Not much money at stake. I'm not aware of any hype as pertaining to these brands, other than the fact that they work really good and are cheap and offered in a variety of shapes and sizes and handle styles. The Omega 49 is what I'm talking about also. If you've got it, then you've got what I call a premium grade boar brush. The VDH is a prime example of a less than premium grade of boar. You should probably ditch the VdH and stick with your Omega.

Re: VDH Badger

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:03 pm
by M6Classic
brothers wrote:
Nic, there is probably a misconception that a premium boar is expensive.
Well, a large (#20-24) vintage (1970-1982), NOS, Plisson HMW set in plexiglass will cost you about US$2,000. If you can find one. Depends upon what one considers expensive.

Buzz

Re: VDH Badger

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:11 pm
by nicodemus38
well I see boar brushes up into the 40-50 range so I scratched my head.

im still trying to figure it out myself this vdh badger. its not really holding its shape much, shedding like a wet rat.

Re: VDH Badger

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:08 am
by M6Classic
nicodemus38 wrote:well I see boar brushes up into the 40-50 range so I scratched my head.

im still trying to figure it out myself this vdh badger. its not really holding its shape much, shedding like a wet rat.
You got a dog of a badger. It could happen to anyone.

Buzz

Re: VDH Badger

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:12 am
by nicodemus38
but after all the decent reviews im not surprised.

Re: VDH Badger

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:40 pm
by nicodemus38
i used a virgin puck of Williams today with the vdh dog.

the brush felt like it was a 30 dollar sable paint brush. soo smooth and soft.

is it possible that it just likes soap with an extremely high degree of glide?