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Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby nodaktim » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:23 pm

When I was more active on the forum there was lots of talk about the Kent BK4 Brush. I never pulled the trigger on ordering one. Now that I am back on SMF, I find myself ordering blades, a razor (my first Gillette Super Adjustable) and a few other things I am tempted by and feel a missed out on before.

I already have my Rooney "Emillion", a Rooney Super and Edwin Jagger Best Badger. Will the Kent fill a void or just be another brush similar to one of my Rooneys?

I know the Kent BK4 is still suggested to newer members that want to move up from an EJ (or C&E) Best, but what about compared to my other brushes. I see the prices have gone up, so I am exploring sites for prices, but worry about diminishing returns.
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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby CMur12 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:34 pm

Hi Tim -

Though there isn't as much discussion about the BK4 now as before, everything I have seen posted about it remains to be positive. It has a fairly dense knot and a fairly tall loft, which together doesn't feel as dense as it actually is. If you are looking for the ultimate in backbone for face-lathering, it might disappoint you, but it is widely regarded as a very effective brush and it would offer you a different experience from the brushes you already have.

As I recall, these brushes have always been expensive when purchased through the US distributor, so members used to purchase them directly from England. I don't know if this is still the case.

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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby Squire » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:01 pm

To answer the question yes, the BK4 is still a good buy. I prefer it to my Rooney Emillion and Super. That's not to say it's superior to those models, rather that I like it more.
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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby nodaktim » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:26 pm

Thank you Murray and Squire for the replies. I was afraid of this. The A.D. monster is rearing it's ugly head again.

What would you consider a good price these days?
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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby drmoss_ca » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:26 pm

I still have one or two BK4s hanging around. I think I gave one to Gordon. It's a very soft and rather thin brush, but it makes a lather that is far thicker and more profuse than you would expect. I don't know how it does this, but it does it very reliably. For me, it falls down on applying the lather in that I enjoy the feeling of a brush with at least some backbone on my face. If you want one, let me know and I'll make you an offer you can't refuse. I believe I have it's bigger brothers hanging around somewhere. What were they? BK8 and BK12?

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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby Squire » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:59 pm

8 and 12 yes, same theme writ larger I believe.
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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby brothers » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:38 pm

I was surprised to learn that the loft of the BK4 is the same as the BK8. The difference between the two is that the diameter of the plug pf the BK8 is larger than the plug in the BK4.
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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby Rufus » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:33 am

BK4 does have a different feel to my othe 33 badgers. It is soft and cloud-like without much backbone, but not floppy per se. It's a have to have in my collection although it won't replace my Thater and shavemac 3-band silvertips. For whatever reason all Kent products are marked up in Canada and the USA; I bought mine from the Shaving Shack in England at a much better price than I would have paid in Canada.
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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby fallingwickets » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:49 am

I would rush to take up Chris on his offer, but an alternative: vulfix 2234 :D :D :D AKA IK (imitation kent) $55'ish

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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby Tucker » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:49 pm

I have the Kent BK4, and it is a good buy with the price of the Pound vs. the Dollar. However, I much prefer my Kent Infinity Silvertex Brush at a fraction of the price of the BK4. It really is a wonderful synthetic brush.
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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby nodaktim » Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:47 am

I anxiously await the arrival of my brush. Dr. Moss was right, it is deal I could not refuse.

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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby brothers » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:32 pm

Congrats! The BK4 is legendary.
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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby fallingwickets » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:58 am

Looking forward to read your comments Tim :)
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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby nodaktim » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:00 am

The eagle has landed...err...um...the badger has arrived!! :D

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I have not had a chance to use it yet, but wanted to post a couple of pictures to show the size compared to my other brushes.

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Kent BK4 among his new family
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From left to right:

Proraso Professional Shaving brush (Omega model unknown)*
* [purchased about 10 years ago from Target, when they briefly carried Proraso products].

Rooney "Emillion" [original batch from Vintageblades]

Kent BK4 [from Dr. Moss (thank you again)]

Rooney Super

Edwin Jagger Best Badger (medium 21 knot)

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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby EL Alamein » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:38 pm

Tim, enjoy!

My BK4 is fantastic. Acquired a few years ago it is a wonderful performer even if it's not my daily driver. I tend to use it when I want to stray from my mainstay Taylor's of Old Bond Street Vintage Potassium Stearate Shaving soap. The scents of most other soaps and creams tend to stay.

I don't know what the quality of the BK4 is nowadays but I'll guess it's the same as the days of yore. If so, you're in for a treat as it is a wonderful lather generator rivaling the old Plisson plexi-glass handled brushes in European White (the functional equivalent of the HMW of it's day per reliable sources).

Enjoy in good health.

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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby nodaktim » Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:07 pm

I have suspended my blade trials for now as I wanted to try out the BK4 for Christmas.

This brush retained plenty of water, yet released it quite easily. It lathered quickly using Trumper's GFT cream. It made enough lather for about 5-6 passes using the same amount of cream I use for about 3 passes using my Rooney Super.

The clean up was a breeze as it released all of the lather with only a light squeeze of the bristles and rinsed out easily.

I am looking forward to using this brush more and seeing how it performs. So far it seems to be a top quality brush in all respects. If it continues to perform as I think it will, it will probably become my go-to daily driver.
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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby CMur12 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:26 pm

Glad to hear the BK4 is working so well for you, Tim. It was commendable of Chris to send it your way.

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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby fallingwickets » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:17 am

Glad to hear the BK4 is working so well for you, Tim. It was commendable of Chris to send it your way.


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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby nodaktim » Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:51 pm

CMur12 wrote:Glad to hear the BK4 is working so well for you, Tim. It was commendable of Chris to send it your way.

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Thank you Murray. I agree it was very generous and as you said "commendable" of Chris. After today's shave (2nd using BK4), it is quickly becoming my go-to brush.
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Re: Is the Kent BK4 still a good buy?

Postby brothers » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:05 pm

It's great that it's working out to be a good brush for you. Chris is known to be very generous.
But now we still have the original question - is it a good buy? Depends on the price, right! :D
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