1st Shave w/Cobra Classic
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1st Shave w/Cobra Classic
I'm starting to work on an idea for a wetshaving video for later this year: "Newly Designed Safety Razors." I want to talk about the Goodfella, Ikon, and Cobra Classic razors (still toying with the idea of a Pils and/or a Feather Stainless). I've used a Goodfella for a while, have an Ikon Bulldog OC coming, and just came out of the shave den after my first shave with Classic Shaving's Cobra Classic.
Holy cow, insanity with a gold handle.
One, straight-down pass (irregardless of grain) would probably be considered DFS in my book; certainly "presentable." As it was my straight-down, straight-up, T&C resulted in a shave as close to a straight as I think I've had. Two tiny nicks and a bit of razor burn on the right side of my neck, no doubt due to incorrect angle: I find the handle difficult to hold in some positions.
I find myself faceturbating, something I haven't done in years.
Holy cow, insanity with a gold handle.
One, straight-down pass (irregardless of grain) would probably be considered DFS in my book; certainly "presentable." As it was my straight-down, straight-up, T&C resulted in a shave as close to a straight as I think I've had. Two tiny nicks and a bit of razor burn on the right side of my neck, no doubt due to incorrect angle: I find the handle difficult to hold in some positions.
I find myself faceturbating, something I haven't done in years.
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Re: 1st Shave w/Cobra Classic
Careful Mark, I hear tell that will make you go blind .mantic wrote: I find myself faceturbating, something I haven't done in years.
Looking forward to you next video which no doubt be great as always.
Tony
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Re: 1st Shave w/Cobra Classic
For completeness, you should include them, and the Muhle/Edwin Jagger razors as well.mantic wrote:(still toying with the idea of a Pils and/or a Feather Stainless).
I just purchased a Feather All Stainless this week, and I love that the design full covers up the blade tabs.
Having sliced my ear lobe open more than once with the blade tabs, I consider covering them up to be a superior design.
I believe it is only designed to work with the Feather Pro blades. The Feather Super Pros are too wide, and the Feather Light are likely too narrow.sachin wrote:What kind of Feather Professional blades do you guys use with the Cobra Classic?
I have never heard of anyone trying to use the Cobra with a Feather ProGuard (which is the same width as a Feather Pro).
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Re: 1st Shave w/Cobra Classic
I agree that ProGuard blades may not work with the Cobra, but my guess is that the Feather Light blades should work alright as they have the same blade thickness as the Professional blades - 0.254mm (source: Classicshaving). Only one way to find out; have to get SWMBO on board though.michiganlover wrote:I believe it is only designed to work with the Feather Pro blades. The Feather Super Pros are too wide, and the Feather Light are likely too narrow.
I have never heard of anyone trying to use the Cobra with a Feather ProGuard (which is the same width as a Feather Pro).
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I don't think I'll be including the Muhle/EJ razors: their design and materials are pretty standard. I even have my reservations about the Pils and Feather All Stainless, as they seem to be a standard design with an exotic material. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.michiganlover wrote:For completeness, you should include them, and the Muhle/Edwin Jagger razors as well.mantic wrote:(still toying with the idea of a Pils and/or a Feather Stainless).
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I think that the Muhle/EJ razor and the Pils might be worth a second look, the Muhle/EJ is a relatively new head design and was a departure from the standard Merkur style head, the Pils is quite a departure by overall design from the standard selection of razors. The only issue might be cost as I find the Pils and new Feather razors a little on the spendy side.mantic wrote:I don't think I'll be including the Muhle/EJ razors: their design and materials are pretty standard. I even have my reservations about the Pils and Feather All Stainless, as they seem to be a standard design with an exotic material. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.michiganlover wrote:For completeness, you should include them, and the Muhle/Edwin Jagger razors as well.mantic wrote:(still toying with the idea of a Pils and/or a Feather Stainless).
Good luck with your choices.
Good shaving,
Gary
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Re: 1st Shave w/Cobra Classic
ClassicShaving has their stats on the Feather Pro, and Feather Light blades messed up, as they list the width, and thickness as being identical.sachin wrote:I agree that ProGuard blades may not work with the Cobra, but my guess is that the Feather Light blades should work alright as they have the same blade thickness as the Professional blades - 0.254mm (source: Classicshaving). Only one way to find out; have to get SWMBO on board though.
This is most certainly not the case. I have used both blades in the past,and the Feather Light is smaller in width.
The Feather Light blade is narrower than a Feather Pro, thus resulting in less blade exposure, which makes the razor shave as if it were a 4/8 or 5/8 when placed in a Feather Artist Club Razor.
Feather Pro are supposed to be 5/8 or 6/8
and Feather Super Pro are 6/8 or 7/8.
Since the Cobra is designed only for Feather Pros (as per ClassicShaving's ad copy) the reduced width of the Feather Light might mean the blade doesn't seat properly. Just speculating, as I have never actually held a Cobra.
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Re: 1st Shave w/Cobra Classic
Thanks for the info, John. I have neither used the Cobra nor the "No Sharpen" Feather razors. So my conclusion was completely based on the stats on webpages from Classicshaving and westcoastshaving. Hopefully, I will be able to buy and use one of the above mentioned razors in the near future, SWMBO permitting.michiganlover wrote: ClassicShaving has their stats on the Feather Pro, and Feather Light blades messed up, as they list the width, and thickness as being identical.
This is most certainly not the case. I have used both blades in the past,and the Feather Light is smaller in width.
The Feather Light blade is narrower than a Feather Pro, thus resulting in less blade exposure, which makes the razor shave as if it were a 4/8 or 5/8 when placed in a Feather Artist Club Razor.
Feather Pro are supposed to be 5/8 or 6/8
and Feather Super Pro are 6/8 or 7/8.
Since the Cobra is designed only for Feather Pros (as per ClassicShaving's ad copy) the reduced width of the Feather Light might mean the blade doesn't seat properly. Just speculating, as I have never actually held a Cobra.
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Here are the stats from Italianbarber.com (who is an official Feather distributor, thus I assume his stats are correct):sachin wrote:Thanks for the info, John. I have neither used the Cobra nor the "No Sharpen" Feather razors. So my conclusion was completely based on the stats on webpages from Classicshaving and westcoastshaving. Hopefully, I will be able to buy and use one of the above mentioned razors in the near future, SWMBO permitting.
Feather Light:
50 mm length
0.15 mm thick
0.6 mm blade exposure
Feather Pro:
50 mm length
0.15 mm thick
1.2 mm blade exposure
Feather Super Pro:
50mm length
0.31 mm thick
1.45 mm blade exposure
Feather ProGuard:
50 mm length
0.15 mm thick
1.2 mm blade exposure
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Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any in-between, at least for me. And the length of the blade is very ungainly.Blue As A Jewel wrote:I very much enjoy my Cobra Classic - a feather light touch and you get some incredible shaves... Too heavy a hand and you get some incredibly bad shaves!
James Nicks
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This is my initial experience as well: I get either effortless BBS or a bloodbath. I'm getting used to the length of the blade and the odd handle more quickly than I thought I would though.Percy Snodgrass wrote:Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any in-between, at least for me. And the length of the blade is very ungainly.
--Mark
I've been curious about the Cobra, but right now I'm thoroughly distracted by two beauties of different persuasions, a gold Slant HD and a Hart Steel straight razor, and am awaiting the arrival of the Big Boy Deluxe and the Rocket HD. I'm sure there'll be a Cobra in my future, just not right now. I'll let you guys have all the fun (for now).
Gary
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A comment regarding the similarity some have mentioned between the Cobra and a straight razor -- Robert Williams makes a version of the straight razor that he calls the "Purist", that has no "old fashioned (?)" scales or handles, and I think I understood that the Purist has a 2" blade, which is right at 50mm. Most straight razor blades, I think, are in the neighborhood of almost 3".
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Good thought Paul. since the Cobra is an SE razor, it seems it would be considered an improvement if the blades were injectable.Pauldog wrote:You'd think that if someone came up with this exotic thing, that someone would come up with one with the greater appeal of using regular injector blades.
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I have had a Cobra for over a year, and really like it. It took 3-4 shaves to adjust to the width of the blade and learn the handle. Now the wide blade seems natural (even after not using it for a while), and I love the strange looking handle. It is especially nice when shaving "up" or ATG & XTG. I consistantly get BBS and no burn with this razor; as long as I use a light touch and don't let my mind wander .
Changing the blades at first requires some fiddling, but it can be quickly and safely done with a little practice.
As good and interesting as the razor is, I believe the blades are the stars of the show. The Feather Pro Blade is as sharp as, well, a Feather, is quite rigid and lasts a long time. I have been getting 15+(quality)shaves from a single blade, and sometime change the blade out 'cause I "think" it's time.
As you can tell, it's a fave.
John N.
Changing the blades at first requires some fiddling, but it can be quickly and safely done with a little practice.
As good and interesting as the razor is, I believe the blades are the stars of the show. The Feather Pro Blade is as sharp as, well, a Feather, is quite rigid and lasts a long time. I have been getting 15+(quality)shaves from a single blade, and sometime change the blade out 'cause I "think" it's time.
As you can tell, it's a fave.
John N.
John N.