Merkur 11C and 12C -RIP

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Merkur 11C and 12C -RIP

Post by BullGoose » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:24 am

I was just informed that Merkur has discontinued production of the 11C and 12C razors. I do not know if this means that they have dropped all open comb razors but, it looks like that may be the case.
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Post by ateace » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:14 am

Will the OC 1904 / 41C fall victim as well?

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Post by BullGoose » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:38 am

ateace wrote:Will the OC 1904 / 41C fall victim as well?
I am not sure. The 41C is still available for me to order but I do not know if it is still being produced.
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Post by KAV » Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:00 pm

The irony of discontinued products is the increased interest and 'buy it while you can' mindset that reacts.

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Post by jww » Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:23 pm

I think economists may refer to this as supply and demand?
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Post by mikeny278 » Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:02 pm

This razor always seemed to have 2 camps: those that love it, and those that complain it is too mild and needs a blade gap. I just got an 11C and am very happy with it. I always liked my 1904 OC as well. Different strokes for different folks, but I am surprised it does not get more love.
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Post by brothers » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:34 pm

I had an 11c head and gave it to my son who really likes it on the Georgian black handle. I had a 12c Barberpole but soon got tired of the early design open comb heads that have no blade gap, as mentioned above. Plus, only half of the surface of the blade is exposed to the whiskers, and overall it's a mild shaver. If I wasn't so pleased with my 37g HD Slant, I'd probably have a 39c Sledgehammer.
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Post by ben74 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:12 am

I have an 11C and when I heard the news from Phil I was considering adding the 12C to my collection. But, I'm not really a fan of the barber pole's non OC brother and it sounds like this OC might be too mild. Any more thoughts on this razor? Will I regret not getting one (while I still have the opportunity)?
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Re: Merkur 11C and 12C -RIP

Post by Seamaster » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:39 pm

BullGoose wrote:I was just informed that Merkur has discontinued production of the 11C and 12C razors. I do not know if this means that they have dropped all open comb razors but, it looks like that may be the case.
I note that the 985CL open comb travel razor has also gone out of stock nearly everywhere.

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Post by DreadPirate » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:30 pm

Everybody should definitely get an 11C; I have one and I think they are great. Also get a 1904 OC. I guess I will have to move them next to the Gillette collectibles.

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Post by mikeny278 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:13 pm

The 11C is my daily razor. I would not confuse smooth with mild. This razor, while smooth, performs like an aggressive razor, and it gives me a shave comparable to my Slant in one pass. I just shaved today with 3 days growth and only needed one pass with no touch ups. I think this razor requires a slightly different technique (steeper angle/hold handle higher) than other razors, which seems to be opposite of the Slant (for me, I hold the handle lower)
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Post by mikeny278 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:13 pm

Anyone think that Merkur may have something up their sleeve with this move? Maybe a new open comb with a blade gap?
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Post by brothers » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:01 am

That would be a good one!
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Re: Merkur 11C and 12C -RIP

Post by JimJack » Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:54 am

The 11C and 12C can still be found.

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Re: Merkur 11C and 12C -RIP

Post by brothers » Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:34 am

BullGoose wrote:I was just informed that Merkur has discontinued production of the 11C and 12C razors. I do not know if this means that they have dropped all open comb razors but, it looks like that may be the case.
The design of the discontinued Merkurs is virtually identical to the Old Type Gillettes, specifically because the blade lays flat on the bottom plate with no gap. This is what makes the redesigned Barbasol Floating Head a better razor than the initial Barbasol design, in which there was no blade gap. Gillette had this in mind when they redesigned all of their razors in the 1930's to allow for a gap. "Out with the Old and in with the New!" The blade in the open comb laying flat on the bottom plate only results in blocking the cutting edge at each of the teeth of the comb. Also, the guard is too close and that reduces the blade's ability to reach the base of the whiskers to cut them off efficiently. That's not good.
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