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Cobra Classic vs. Muhle R41 Toothcomb

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:43 pm
by brothers
If I've already posted this question before, please excuse me. I've been moderately interested in the Cobra Classic for a while, but can't get over the carelessly aggressive design of the Toothcomb. If the Cobra cuts as raw and bloody as the Toothcomb, then I'm not interested. But if it, the Cobra, cuts more naturally and intelligently, along the lines of a good sharp straight razor, then I'd probably be very happy with it. What can you guys tell me about the comparison between these two unusual so-called safety razors?

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:54 pm
by BullGoose
Gary...do not hesitate and pick up a Cobra Classic today. I have one and it has become an instant favorite. It is very efficient but, it is not harsh at all. I get BBS shaves that last 12 hours with the Cobra and absolutely no irritation.

And...I don't even sell it. How's that for an endorsement! :D

If you end up not liking it, they sell quickly on the B/S/T

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:36 pm
by ShadowsDad
Gary, do you mean the 2011 R41? I thought you had one at one time?

It has rapidly become my favorite DE razor. Aggressive yes, but it's never drawn blood on me unless I deliberately make it do so; like the day I sliced into the corner of my nose. It demands perfect technique, but it'll return that with a perfect shave w/o having to work at it.

I'm not crazy about the handle, but I can live with it.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:48 am
by brothers
ShadowsDad wrote:Gary, do you mean the 2011 R41? I thought you had one at one time?

It has rapidly become my favorite DE razor. Aggressive yes, but it's never drawn blood on me unless I deliberately make it do so; like the day I sliced into the corner of my nose. It demands perfect technique, but it'll return that with a perfect shave w/o having to work at it.

I'm not crazy about the handle, but I can live with it.
You bet. I did have one, but I've not owned the Cobra Classic. That's the one I'm mainly interested in. We see a lot of the R41 razors changing hands on the forums, but there's not much traffic concerning the Cobra.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:02 am
by LeGaulois
Cobra Classic +1000

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:20 am
by slantman
Cobra Classic without a doubt. Shaves extremely smooth and close and you can get at least ten excellent shaves or more out of one blade. Blade choices are Feather Pro or Kai Captain Titan Mild. On the other hand the R41 is not a comfortable shave no matter how careful I was.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:44 am
by BullGoose
LeGaulois wrote:Cobra Classic +1000
I see your +1000 and raise you +1000. :lol:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:05 am
by changabang
I have them both, and I feel much safer using the Cobra, even though the razor itself feels somewhat unwieldy due to the width of the head. Still, I feel more certain when using the Cobra that I'm not going to sacrifice draughts of blood. To be honest, I don't use either of them very often. I'm more comforted by the trustworthyness of the iKon or the Weber Two Tone.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:47 pm
by mantic
changabang wrote:I have them both, and I feel much safer using the Cobra, even though the razor itself feels somewhat unwieldy due to the width of the head...
I agree with this. I also have both, and while they are both very aggressive the R41 can be just plain mean if you don't have your technique spot on.

(As a matter of fact I'm in the middle of editing a video about the R41 that includes a lot of horror film stock footage. 8) )

--Mark

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:03 pm
by slantman
mantic wrote:
changabang wrote:I have them both, and I feel much safer using the Cobra, even though the razor itself feels somewhat unwieldy due to the width of the head...
I agree with this. I also have both, and while they are both very aggressive the R41 can be just plain mean if you don't have your technique spot on.

(As a matter of fact I'm in the middle of editing a video about the R41 that includes a lot of horror film stock footage. 8) )

--Mark
Very droll Mark :roll:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:50 pm
by brothers
Here's looking forward to your new release Mark. I like scary movies.

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:43 pm
by ShadowsDad
Well, yes the R41 can be all that. It's certainly like grabbing a tiger by the tail if someone shouldn't be using it. It also takes a while to get accustomed to feeling the blade flexing in use. I think that scares lots of folks into making mistakes with it. It just doesn't feel right the first time or two.

Treat it the way it needs to be treated, with respect, and it's unbelievably well behaved IMO. Folks just need to know their limitations. The razor isn't a feel good thing from a modern school where "We don't want to hurt anyones feelings". It's just a razor, and if somone is capable, it is too, if someone isn't, it lets the user know in a very public way, with blood. No feel good, "Everyones a winner" crap with it.

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:07 pm
by brothers
Re: Cobra Classic, I located this video clipon YouTube. The guy does a good job, as usual.

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:19 pm
by brothers
Brian I get what you're saying, but some of us simply don't care for certain things. It's not that we are supposed to knuckle down and make ourself endure or tolerate certain aspects about certain razors, blades, creams, soaps, brushes, etc. :D It's more like this, if I like something, or don't like something, I get to decide that, and that's the way it stands. To each his own. Fair enough? If I don't enjoy or feel good about any part of the process, I'm moving on to options that I do feel good about and enjoy. That's why they invented YMMV! :lol:

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:40 pm
by itsmedave
I gotta get me one of those

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:30 pm
by desertbadger
Gary, get the Cobra. I bought the second one ever produced and while IMO it's not a beginners razor, it will provide shaves that are second to none and very smooth. It is the ONLY razor capable of doing a one pass shave on a very tough beard (mine) that I've ever been happy with.
To clarify, I do a two pass shave as a regular routine, but if you need or want to, it will do a one pass shave that you'll be happy with.
A word of warning: The Cobra can be very addictive!

Regards,
David

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:36 am
by fallingwickets
which merchants are selling these??....i want to try one too,,,,@&!(%#$ enablers on this site!!!!! lol

clive

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:44 am
by brothers
fallingwickets wrote:which merchants are selling these??....i want to try one too,,,,@&!(%#$ enablers on this site!!!!! lol

clive
As of right now, I'm aware of two. Classic Shaving and Executive Shaving (limited supply here). Don't forget the blades! Meanwhile, true to my puzzling nature, I'm still holding off on my order. I've got a refund from a misadventure with an aborted brush purchase, supposedly enroute to my Paypal account, which will just about cover the price of a Cobra. Yeah, I'll probably wait too long and they'll be all sold out, that's the way I do stuff.

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:50 am
by fallingwickets
Thanks Gary. The razor needs special blades? ughhh, I have ten closets filled with merkurs :lol:

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:54 am
by fallingwickets
Phil, why dont you sell it?????? Are you planning to???? Sheesh man, get with the programme

:lol: :lol:

clive