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Russian Green Box 7 O'clock Blades, a Review

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:55 pm
by Squire
From the factory in St. Petersburg come this variation on the 7 O'clock theme.

Description These blades present in a bright green cardboard box without a means of disposing of the used blades. The graphic layout is the same as the other 7 O'clocks. There may be more, I'm only aware of the four.

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Characteristics These are uncoated stainless blades that present double wrapped with a minimum amount of glue. The graphics and general appearance show that the factory spent some effort in the manufacturing process. I should emphasize that the Russian box and the Indian box could be easily confused. This one is labeled Super Stainless and the other Permasharp Stainless but you have to look carefully to spot the difference as it is only one word. Country of origin is there in small print but not on the front. These blades are available in the Pacific area and would have to special ordered from a vendor over there.

I enclosed two pictures of the edge because I am trying to refine the edge photos and the two show a slightly different view. The sharpening is one long grind from the table with a fairly wide hone to the edge. A comparison with photos of the Yellow Box 7 O'clocks show the same sharpening pattern with the same clean, even line defining the beginning of the hone. QC is evident here.

Use So how does it shave? Good actually, it doesn't reach the level of the Yellow Box but the edge isn't coated so that wasn't expected. A versatile, working blade that was equally at home in all my razors. Rated 6.75.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:04 pm
by CMur12
Another great review, Squire!

I really appreciate the time and effort you put into these.

Many thanks, once again -

- Murray

Re: Russian Green Box 7 O'clock Blades, a Review

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:10 pm
by GA Russell
Squire wrote:...it doesn't reach the level of the Yellow Box but the edge isn't coated so that wasn't expected...
Apropos, I was surprised when Giovanni posted a couple of weeks ago that it is his smoothest blade.

I also note that the yellow is the least expensive of Giovanni's three 7 O'Clocks, with the green in the middle and the black the most expensive.

So perhaps there is a reason that someone at Gillette may indeed expect the green to outperform the yellow.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:15 pm
by CMur12
GA, Giovanni's green-box 7 O'Clocks and those in the black box are from India.

I don't know how the Russian Super Stainless in a green box compares with the Indian Permasharp Stainless in a green box.

- Murray

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:21 pm
by Squire
GA, all of Giovanni's 7 O'clock stock is from India and the one I just reviewed was made in Russia. I am working on the India versions now and should be able to report by next Wednesday. Frankly, I can only surmise the differences by how they shave, I mean the Yellow Box doesn't actually say on the box that it is coated.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:39 pm
by CMur12
Squire wrote:GA, all of Giovanni's 7 O'clock stock is from India and the one I just reviewed was made in Russia. I am working on the India versions now and should be able to report by next Wednesday. Frankly, I can only surmise the differences by how they shave, I mean the Yellow Box doesn't actually say on the box that it is coated.
Minor correction: According to Giovanni's website, the yellow-box 7 O'Clock blades are from Russia. His 7 O'Clock offerings in the green and black boxes, along with the PG-Wilkinsons, are from India.

- Murray

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:47 pm
by Squire
You're correct Murray, I was referring to the Green and Black box versions. I suppose Gillette could have made it more confusing if they really tried.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:59 pm
by GA Russell
Thanks guys!

My greens are the Super Stainless made in St. Petersburg. I haven't tried them yet.

I bought them from an R&B poster. I assumed that he had obtained them from Giovanni, which was a stupid assumption because none of the other blades he sent me are carried by Giovanni.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:35 pm
by Julius_Rodman
CMur12 wrote:Minor correction: According to Giovanni's website, the yellow-box 7 O'Clock blades are from Russia. His 7 O'Clock offerings in the green and black boxes, along with the PG-Wilkinsons, are from India.

- Murray

My blade run from him last week included 50 greens from India.

Decent blades. Good review.

-------------------------

Kent

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:58 pm
by Squire
GA, I checked, the blade Giovanni calls his 'smoothest' is not the Russian Green box reviewed here. As I stated earlier, Gillette couldn't have made it more confusing if they had tried.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:03 pm
by GA Russell
Thanks Squire. I'll include a pack of the Indian greens with my next order, along with the Arko shave stick you like so much.

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:58 pm
by evahs
Lots of different Gillette blades. I wonder why the quality and cut is so different between them?

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:18 pm
by fallingwickets
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:47 pm
by Squire
evahs, the blades have noticeable differences because they are made in different factories in different countries. Best we can do is locate the good ones and buy in bulk.

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:49 pm
by Craig_From_Cincy
Communists? What is this, 1955?? I didn't know that Proctor & Gamble, Gillette's owners, were known for being commies.

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:23 am
by Pauldog
Craig_From_Cincy wrote:Communists? What is this, 1955?? I didn't know that Proctor & Gamble, Gillette's owners, were known for being commies.
Comrade, someone has to take up the slack, now that the Soviet Union is gone and China switched to who-knows-what...

Re: Russian Green Box 7 O'clock Blades, a Review

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:38 pm
by GA Russell
GA Russell wrote: I also note that the yellow is the least expensive of Giovanni's three 7 O'Clocks, with the green in the middle and the black the most expensive.
I see today that this is no longer the case.

Giovanni has changed his prices, and the yellow is now the most expensive of his 7 O'Clocks. The India green is the least expensive, with the black in the middle.

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:23 pm
by D.Irving79
i bought a massive amount of these. i love this blade.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:02 am
by Rufust445
Craig_From_Cincy wrote:Communists? What is this, 1955?? I didn't know that Proctor & Gamble, Gillette's owners, were known for being commies.
I don't know how old you are, Craig, but I spent my freshman year of high school just a block or two from P&G HQ in Cincy.

There were stories floating around back then about how P&G, as a local "Mover & Shaker," had a tendency to meddle in community affairs.

As part of a summer job, I also had to deal with P&G employees from time to time, and noted their condescending, (not ShaveMyFace, but kiss something else) attitude.

I have gone out of my way to use products from other companies, like Colgate-Palmolive, ever since.

I just tried a 7O'Clock yellow this morning as part of a sample pack, but there are a few alternatives that work nicely, thank you.

If P&G loses access to the production facility in St. Petersburg due to the current geo-political situation that's coming to a boil, I won't feel sorry for them.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:45 am
by Squire
They certainly are good blades, we all have our choice of who we will patronize, I will use what works best.