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SRD wrote:Open combs are my favorite DE's. All of mine are Gillette News with a couple of Old styles thrown in. The only modern open that I have in my rotation is the Muehle R41. I enjoy that razor very much as well. In general I think the consensus is that the open comb is more aggressive than the closed. A few of my Gillette News are somewhat aggressive but I have been using them for so long that I guess I have just adjusted with technique. I do know that I use a LITTLE more pressure when I use the Fatboy, SS's, Merkur HD and British 66. Of course YMMV.
brothers wrote:Another example of a ridiculously aggressive closed comb Gillette Tech is the earliest version that is distinguished by the triangular shaped holes in the bottom plate of the head.
function wrote:brothers wrote:Another example of a ridiculously aggressive closed comb Gillette Tech is the earliest version that is distinguished by the triangular shaped holes in the bottom plate of the head.
I don't know if I'd go as far as to say it is ridiculously aggressive, in fact I think it is just right. To me the aggression is somewhere between my NEW and my Feather Portable, both of which I love. If you examine, you may notice this appears to be manufactured the same way as the NEW, and in fact the "cap" is interchangeable. If you have one chewing your face up I'd love to relieve you of it so I can have a backup.
brothers wrote:I should add that my Tech is the only triangle hole one I've ever tried, so it should be noted that maybe this one razor is a bit more aggresive than others, and of course, it could be me! Operator error?
notthesharpest wrote:IMO discussing closed-comb vs open-comb as a shaving question is a mistake. It is mainly a razor-manufacturing question.
The quality of your shave is going to be based on geometry: the angle at which the blade is bent inside the razor head, the angle & curve of the upper cap, the length, position, and angle of the comb area, among others.
Whether the comb area is solid or toothed does contribute a little to a different feel on your face, but all those geometry issues are the same regardless.
The Gillette NEW is not a good design because of the open comb; it's a good design because they got the head geometry right. If you made a closed-comb version but with the same contours, it would shave essentially the same.
Some closed-comb razors can be ridiculously aggressive (Vision, Futur, others); some closed-comb razors can be ridiculously mild (late-model Techs) - the same applies to open comb, though there are fewer models to compare because they're not as easy to make.
CMur12 wrote:I think there are two basic groups of open-comb razors, and within each group is tremendous variation.
1. The original open-comb razors were of the blade-on-comb variety, in which the blade was laid directly onto the comb, with no gap or space between them. The comb essentially allowed access to the blade. There are blade-on-comb razors in production today, such as those by Merkur and Goodfella.
2. In the 1930s, Gillette introduced open-comb razors with blade gap - with the blade raised above the comb. One of these models was the NEW. As far as I'm concerned, these open-comb razors perform identically to safety-bar razors. The blade gap allows access to the blade, so the open comb was no longer necessary and production shifted to the more easily manufactured safety bars.
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