In Praise of the Ordinary Razor

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Re: In Praise of the Ordinary Razor

Post by Shave4Fun » Wed May 16, 2018 7:06 pm

CMur12 wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 1:33 pm
Roger, if the 34C is a Merkur with a fixed head, I believe the Edwin Jagger is a tiny bit milder.

I'm intrigued by the General, but I'm wary of the blades. I require a mild razor (Mergress on lowest setting; Rockwell on 2) and a sharp blade (but not Feather-sharp). I see people here saying that the Feather blades complement the mild General razor, but I heard similar things about Feather DE blades in mild razors. I tried a Feather blade in a Gillette Tech (actually a milder razor than I like to use now), and I still experienced the infamous "skin-thinning" attributed to Feather blades. For this reason, I have held off on the purchase of a General.

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Murray,

The Merkur 34C does have a fixed head. I like the Merkur well enough but it is an aggressive razor for me.

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Re: In Praise of the Ordinary Razor

Post by TRBeck » Wed May 16, 2018 7:30 pm

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Tim, if you are considering the aluminum version of the General, you might also consider the chrome version of the Rockwell (6C). It is half the price and the functional equal of the stainless steel version (6S) and I would judge the finish to be on par with the Edwin Jagger. I'm sometimes tempted to get the 6S as well, but I'm actually very happy with the 6C. (I'm also giving some serious thought to the General, thanks to Gene's feedback.)

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Murray, I hear you on the chrome, but I pulled the trigger on steel. I got a 10 percent off coupon and had some Paypal money I'd forgotten about, so it's on the way.

And the General...yeah, it's in consideration still. And so it goes. :lol: :D
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Re: In Praise of the Ordinary Razor

Post by CMur12 » Wed May 16, 2018 8:31 pm

I think you'll like the Rockwell, Tim.

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Re: In Praise of the Ordinary Razor

Post by TRBeck » Thu May 17, 2018 7:40 am

Thanks for the feedback, Murray et al.

I expect it'll be a great razor for me. I also see the benefit of having access to milder or more aggressive shaves as needed, and in the end, I have to admit I just like trying new shave gear.
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Re: In Praise of the Ordinary Razor

Post by Nitrox » Thu May 17, 2018 2:49 pm

Tim, you made a great choice. Let us know how you like it when you get it and try it out. :D
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Re: In Praise of the Ordinary Razor

Post by CMur12 » Thu May 17, 2018 4:52 pm

I like three-piece razors because they are easy to disassemble and clean after a shave. Not so much the case with TTO and two-piece razors are a little more awkward, too.

With the Rockwell, you get both a three-piece razor and you get a true adjustable: the best of both worlds.

(I consider the Merkur Progress and Mergress "true adjustables" because they maintain the same blade geometry throughout the adjustment range. Gillette TTO adjustables cannot raise the whole head unit, so they produce adjustability by changing the angle of the blade as the only way to change the blade gap. For this reason, I don't consider Gillettes "true adjustables.")

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Re: In Praise of the Ordinary Razor

Post by TRBeck » Fri May 18, 2018 10:13 am

Murray,

Thanks for that explanation of the Mergress vs. the Gillette adjustables. I did enjoy my long-handled adjustable for quite a while, but I think things were smoother for me with the Mergress. The distinction between changing only the angle and changing the head geometry is likely one reason why.

I am very much looking forward to the Rockwell.
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Re: In Praise of the Ordinary Razor

Post by TRBeck » Wed May 23, 2018 7:14 am

First shave with the Rockwell today. I used plate 4 to go slightly more aggressive than the DE89. Very efficient and smooth, even with more blade exposure and a bigger blade gap. I will have to see how I feel about the heft after a few more shaves. The 6C may have been a better choice. Or not. I like the matte look. Anyway, an auspicious beginning, as I got my closest shave in some time (although this may have been due to extra attention paid with the new razor).
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Re: In Praise of the Ordinary Razor

Post by CMur12 » Wed May 23, 2018 3:38 pm

I really like the look of the chromed Rockwell 6C. Maybe I'm just a sucker for shiny objects. :mrgreen:

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Re: In Praise of the Ordinary Razor

Post by TRBeck » Thu May 24, 2018 6:59 am

Yeah, chrome is nice and my general preference (the Merkur 1904 being one of my favorite razors to look at), but something about the utilitarian look of a matte steel razor is striking to me.

Good shave today. Already the weight felt like less of an issue, and the blade angle is getting dialed in. No irritation, closer than the 89, and very efficient. Still not where I want the shave to be - where it was with my Mergress, my LH Adjustable, and my Red Tip once I got each dialed in - but on the way there.
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Re: In Praise of the Ordinary Razor

Post by CMur12 » Thu May 24, 2018 3:27 pm

Tim, I have other stainless steel razors and I like their looks, too. I think either choice, 6C or 6S, is a good one.

You mentioned reservations about the heft of your 6S. Is the issue too much heft or not enough?

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Re: In Praise of the Ordinary Razor

Post by TRBeck » Thu May 24, 2018 4:29 pm

Murray, I thought it might be too much at first, but today's shave felt more natural. I am coming from a very lightweight DE, so I think that was the hangup. The weight worked for me today because I let it instead of fighting it, and the blade seemed to cut effortlessly. I'm sure by the time I use it for a week or two, it will feel "normal" and start becoming intuitive, and only then will I be able to start really evaluating, I think.
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Re: In Praise of the Ordinary Razor

Post by brothers » Fri May 25, 2018 8:17 am

OK --- You guys have managed to get me interested in this razor (Rockwell 6C/6S). Do you think it can compare favorably with the General? I have been reading the almost universally positive (rave?) reviews on the Rockwell website. I see that the stainless costs $100 and the chrome version costs $50. I also see that I can receive a discount signing up for the mailing list. I've got a lot of good DE blades and a lot of good DE razors. Now that I've got this one under my skin and into my head, I think I might give it a whirl. The unconditional 30 day money back guarantee allows me to try it with confidence that I might like it. Should I, or shouldn't I? Is it really that good?
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Re: In Praise of the Ordinary Razor

Post by TRBeck » Fri May 25, 2018 8:54 am

Gary, I'm only 3 days in. Today's shave was actually a step backwards for me in the chin area. I'm still adjusting to the weight and blade angle and wound up having to do touchup on the chin as I just didn't get very close in 2 passes. I can say that the areas where I got the angle right are much more closely cut than with the EJ, and the shave feels smooth and efficient. I also get a bit more auditory feedback from the razor than from the EJ, which is not important to me, but which I do enjoy. All to say I'm still too early in using it to evaluate with finality, and I've only used the one plate anyway (#4), so things might be different with a more aggressive or more mild plate.
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