Vintage Hammam - first impression

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Vintage Hammam - first impression

Post by adhoc » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:03 pm

Ive been lucky enough to snag a vintage bottle of this stuff, a 100ml splash bottle with two royal appointments and not the one with only one (an earlier version I think). I do not have the most advanced nose but I thought it smelled rather similar to TOBS 74 Original, which maybe isn't that weird as they both have that Victorian feel about them. I did not detect as much rose as I expected though, which to be honest was a bit disappointing but it usually takes a little while before I get acquainted with a new scent - I can write an update later. As always I'm often a bit afraid when buying vintage of how much (if any) the scent has deteriorated over time, if anyone would like a small sample and compare I'm happy to oblige!

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Re: Vintage Hammam - first impression

Post by adhoc » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:30 pm

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Re: Vintage Hammam - first impression

Post by drmoss_ca » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:37 pm

adhoc wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:03 pm
Ive been lucky enough to snag a vintage bottle of this stuff, a 100ml splash bottle with two royal appointments and not the one with only one (an earlier version I think). I do not have the most advanced nose but I thought it smelled rather similar to TOBS 74 Original, which maybe isn't that weird as they both have that Victorian feel about them. I did not detect as much rose as I expected though, which to be honest was a bit disappointing but it usually takes a little while before I get acquainted with a new scent - I can write an update later. As always I'm often a bit afraid when buying vintage of how much (if any) the scent has deteriorated over time, if anyone would like a small sample and compare I'm happy to oblige!

Pictures coming soon.
Owning a couple of old bottles of Hammam Bouquet, and no end of No.74 Original (age doesn't matter for that one; Harpic is Harpic, even if I quite like it), I have to say I see what you mean. If one could excise the strong rose top off the Hammam there would be a base that would be much like the 74 Original. Both very lovable in small doses.
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Re: Vintage Hammam - first impression

Post by adhoc » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:46 am

Does anyone have any tips for opening a stuck glass stopper? I could open the bottle before but I'm having trouble opening it now... Ive tried to put it in the fridge for awhile but with no result.
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Re: Vintage Hammam - first impression

Post by blantyre » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:41 pm

Is it a full glass stopper or does it have a plastic covering on the stopper part that goes into the neck of the bottle? I have a bottle of the single warrant juice and that has a plastic covering on the stopper so there is no glass to glass contact. If it has the plastic part then try wearing a pair of rubber gloves to increase grip. If it's all glass than very light tapping on the sides of the stopper "handle" perhaps with a piece of wood can sometimes help. last resort would be heating the outer neck to expand it combined with pulling and twisting. Glass bottles are surprisingly strong but of course they can only take so much before breaking! This usually occurs without warning and the result can be messy, even bloody.

The old stuff is typically characterized as being more "animalic" than the rather more watered down (synthetic?) version that was sold at least up until a few years ago - not sure if Pen's sells HB all all now? On me, the old juice starts out with quite a strong almost civet quality and then dries down to a rather soapy rose with a hint of leather.
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Re: Vintage Hammam - first impression

Post by brothers » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:50 pm

adhoc wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:46 am
Does anyone have any tips for opening a stuck glass stopper? I could open the bottle before but I'm having trouble opening it now... Ive tried to put it in the fridge for awhile but with no result.
The rubber gloves is a good suggestion. I recommend holding the neck of the bottle under a stream of hot tap water which will cause the opening to expand microscopically so the stopper will come right out. The refrigerator will have the opposite effect, shrinking the glass and making the fit that much tighter.
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Re: Vintage Hammam - first impression

Post by adhoc » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:40 pm

Thank you both for the help! Your absolutely right - its not a full glass stopper but a stopper which lower part is plastic, same as yours probably! I will try the rubber gloves but I doubt that it would be much of a help because the stopper is really stuck in there.
The refrigerator-trick was something i picked up from Basenotes but your (brothers) reasoning seems logical and I will try the heat method instead. Only problem with that would be the textile bow which is in the way - would water maybe damage the bow? Perhaps a blow dryer would be a better option?

Regarding the current HB - yes Penhaligons still offers it but I haven't tried that version (I might order a sample just to satisfy my curiosity). As i said earlier, the opening reminds me of TOBS 74 but it dries down to a much cleaner and soapier (in a good way) scent and with a added rose note of course which the 74 lacks but I'm always a bit paranoid about possibly scent deterioration when I buy vintage, however the bottle was unused and probably stored in its box.
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Re: Vintage Hammam - first impression

Post by adhoc » Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:20 am

I got a bottle of Lords aftershave today and I could open that one after a little fight so I just have to be patient with the other one. Does anyone have a spare of one of those metal sprinkler that you can attach to a Penhaligon bottle to make it easier to apply the fragrance? Apparently my aftershave didn't come with one of those.
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Re: Vintage Hammam - first impression

Post by brothers » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:35 pm

The hair dryer seems like an excellent idea.
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