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Kent BK2 or Kent H4

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:02 am
by BullGoose
I was looking to pick up a good brush for soap and was considering the Kent BK2 or the Kent H4 (the BK4 is a little more than I want to shell out). Unfortunately, I did not see any reviews of either the Bk2 or H4. Can anyone on the forum share their experiences with either of these brushes. I am also open to other suggestions for a good soap brush for under $50.

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:44 am
by Hodari D.
If you want to spend under $50 and get a good soap brush, I'd consider picking up a boar brush, which are great with soaps and are pretty cheap. If you want a good badger brush for use with soaps, I'd suggest something small and stiff. Ideally, I'd recommend a small (size 1) style 1 rooney in one of their lower grades of hair, either pure ($50) or best ($55). These are stiff brushes and magic with soaps. If you want a bit more luxury and still a good soap brush, it's a little over your price point but I'd recommend the rooney genuine silvertip ($65) or super silvertip ($75). the size 1 style 1 rooneys are the best bang for the buck, especially if you are after a brush specifically for use with soaps.

check out www.classicshaving.com. They have the full range of rooney brushes here: http://www.classicshaving.com/page/page/2053630.htm

Scott

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:14 pm
by rustyblade
I'm not sure about the BK2. While it didn't feel all that much different than the BK4 (a little scrubbier, I suppose), it lacked density and I couldn't really coax much lather from it.

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:09 pm
by bernards66
At the current prices, I'd just go ahead and spring for a BK4. An excellent brush with hard soaps, you know what you'll be getting, and you will have less inclination to think you should 'upgrade' in six months. I have a number of quite pricey brushes and I find myself using the BK4 for soaps anyway, as oft as not. If you still will not consider it, then the Vulfix model, 'The Strand' in what they now call 'best' badger, for $45 at Classic Shaving, I found to be a good brush.
Regards,
Gordon

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:48 pm
by Antique Hoosier
bernards66 wrote:At the current prices, I'd just go ahead and spring for a BK4. An excellent brush with hard soaps, you know what you'll be getting, and you will have less inclination to think you should 'upgrade' in six months. I have a number of quite pricey brushes and I find myself using the BK4 for soaps anyway, as oft as not. If you still will not consider it, then the Vulfix model, 'The Strand' in what they now call 'best' badger, for $45 at Classic Shaving, I found to be a good brush.
Regards,
Gordon
I agree. Here is my BK4 in an "action shot" early this morning with Geo. F. Trumper Violet Soap.....
Image

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:19 pm
by bernards66
See there?.....impressive, no? Especially with the water we have in these parts. Nice looking razor too.
Regards,
Gordon

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:22 pm
by goose
I know the BK4 is $10 more, but I believe it is worth the extra cost. As the others have said it is a great performer with both creams and soaps, and it functions as well or better than many brushes that cost 2-3 times as much.

Clint

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:21 pm
by Mr. Igg
goose wrote:I know the BK4 is $10 more, but I believe it is worth the extra cost. As the others have said it is a great performer with both creams and soaps, and it functions as well or better than many brushes that cost 2-3 times as much.

Clint
Another vote for the BK4, running no more than $60 shipped from Auravita. I love mine!

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:46 pm
by BullGoose
Thanks for the input. If I can get a BK4 for $60.00 shipped, I'm all over it! I have heard nothing but good things about it but had heard virtually nothing about the BK2 or H4.

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:32 pm
by rsp1202
I got mine from Auravita, too, though it took almost a month to arrive since they ran out of stock just as the order was in-process. Even so, they beat their own estimated re-ship date by a week. It was worth the wait.

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:23 pm
by BullGoose
I took everyone's advice and pulled the trigger this morning. I purchased the BK4 from http://www.auravita.com/products/AURA/KGBS10068.asp for $57.00 total (including shipping).

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:36 pm
by bernards66
BG, Well done! Pretty much within your budget and a superior all around brush. A BK4 makes mixing up a good lather with either soap or cream easier than is the case with many brushes. Should be just the thing.
Regards,
Gordon

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:09 pm
by Ken
BG,

I went to the site to check out the price of the BK8 and the BK4. When I put each in the basket, there was no adjustment for VAT--the price to the U.S. included the VAT as did the price in the UK. I didn't go through the whole process, but was there some reduction at the end for the deletion of VAT to the U.S. when you placed your order?

Ken

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:18 am
by goose
Ken,

Auravita doesn't take the VAT off until you get a little further through the checkout process, but you will see it taken off before the order goes through.

Clint

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:21 pm
by TRBeck
Okay, you guys almost have ME talked into a BK4. It's the one brush I really want to try that I haven't, but I question what it would really give me that I don't already have. I have a soft brush (the Vulfix 2234) and a scrubby one (Duke 3) in a comparable size. However, I would love something with slightly more backbone than the 2234 that is equally soft. In other words, sort of a midpoint between the Vulfix and the Duke. Is this the mythical brush I seek?

Regards,

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:54 pm
by bernards66
Tim, Yeah, pretty much. The two brushes you have are, I think, excellent, each in it's own way. I actually think the Vulfix is a little better for creams then the BK4, but the Kent is considerably better with hard soaps, IMO, while still being very soft on the face. So it is sort of a mid-point between the two in some ways.
Regards,
Gordon

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:46 pm
by John 5
Ken wrote:BG,

I went to the site to check out the price of the BK8 and the BK4. When I put each in the basket, there was no adjustment for VAT--the price to the U.S. included the VAT as did the price in the UK. I didn't go through the whole process, but was there some reduction at the end for the deletion of VAT to the U.S. when you placed your order?

Ken
Ken, Just ordered one. It comes out to $56.99239 US at the current exchange rate, shipped and all. Here is a copy & paste of the final bill. A splendid deal.
auravita wrote: Unit Price Quantity Amount
£34.04 1 £34.04

Item total: £34.04

Shipping and handling: £5.50

Total: £39.54 GBP

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:33 pm
by Mr. Igg
This (BK4) is a great brush at an excellent price. I think (no surprise) Gordon nailed it's descriptions.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:28 am
by koeos
TBoner wrote:I have a soft brush (the Vulfix 2234) and a scrubby one (Duke 3) in a comparable size. However, I would love something with slightly more backbone than the 2234 that is equally soft. In other words, sort of a midpoint between the Vulfix and the Duke. Is this the mythical brush I seek?
Regards,
I have all three and I have to admit that I hardly ever use the Duke anymore :oops:

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:39 am
by goose
Tim,

I haven't used a Vulfix, but the Kent is very soft and works well with both creams and soaps. In the firmness department I would guess it would be closer to the Vulfix than the Duke, due to the relatively long loft of the Kent, but I believe it is more densely packed than the Vulfix is.

Clint