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Sad news here

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:14 pm
by Gene
Greetings all...

My sister called me last Thursday with the bad news. Her son (and only child) took his life. My nephew was a soldier - after the towers fell he enlisted in the Marines and did 3 combat tours during his tenure. He came out, and spent a year in civilian life - but was not able to readjust. He had flirted with joining a special forces unit as he was leaving the Marines, and ultimately rejoined the military - into the Army as a Green Beret. I asked him about this at the time - as a Marine he could have looked at their Force Recon unit, or maybe the Nave SEAL's. He said he wanted the Green Beret's because he wouldn't have the deploy as long, or as often.

That turned out to be wrong.

For whatever reason - he went to Afghanistan often. I lost count on the number of deployments he actually went on. Each one for over a year. When he wasn't overseas he spent massive amounts of time in schools for additional skills. He family life suffered.

Eventually he broke - and had no choice but the leave the Army. He tried for years to get his mind right. Doctors, therapy, medications - nothing helped. My mother claims she was told that the military gave him (and others) some kind of "drug" - something intended to be beneficial in some way for a combat soldier, but that actually caused mental damage to a lot of folks. I. have no idea what she might mean by this - she can't explain it further. She likened it to a version of Agent Orange from the Vietnam era, but I doubt this. I doubt anyone will ever know.

Matt's paranoia knew no bounds. He could not walk down the aisle at a grocery story for fear of what might lie around the corner. He eventually gave up driving - for fear that "the enemy" was trying to hack his vehicle. He could not hold down any job - how he survived day to day is beyond me.

He attempted suicide a couple of years ago - but the doctors saved him. Sadly, last Thursday he grabbed his backpack and stepped on the tracks in front of an oncoming train. We are told that the engineer tried to stop - and was on his horn non-stop (we are sure Matt knew it was coming at him and heard the whistle - even though he had his back to the locomotive). The detective told my sister that he had 2 Christmas cards - one from my sister and one from my mother - in his backpack, along with some other stuff.

My mom and sister console themselves with the knowledge that his pain is finally gone - but they are pretty crushed by this. I didn't have a deep relationship with him, but I am sad, as well.

Re: Sad news here

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:45 pm
by CMur12
Such terrible news, Gene! What a long, tortuous struggle for your nephew and family.

My heartfelt condolences to you all.

- Murray

Re: Sad news here

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:52 pm
by pausted
I’m so sorry, Gene. My condolences to you and your family.

Re: Sad news here

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:18 pm
by brothers
So sorry, Gene.

Re: Sad news here

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 7:02 pm
by Sam
Wow. I am so sorry for your family.

Re: Sad news here

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:09 am
by drmoss_ca
I'm so sorry, Gene. We expect far too much of our soldiers, and seem to have little idea about how to help them once damaged by PTSD. I guess the only thing we could do about it is to be far more reluctant to commit troops, but that has never been much of a concern for the generals and the politicians.

‘Good-morning; good-morning!’ the General said
When we met him last week on our way to the line.
Now the soldiers he smiled at are most of ’em dead,
And we’re cursing his staff for incompetent swine.
‘He’s a cheery old card,’ grunted Harry to Jack
As they slogged up to Arras with rifle and pack.

But he did for them both by his plan of attack.

Re: Sad news here

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:00 am
by ShadowsDad
I'm so sorry to read about that. You and your family have my deepest sympathy. Far too many of our soldiers are committing suicide, and yes the military gives them drugs in combat to get better results and to "keep them together". One problem, they forget they aren't machines. That's compounded by politicians and brass who say the right words but deep down don't care.

The holidays are the worst times to get through. For a tortured mind... Well, I can't imagine it. Rest assured that he's in a much better place and he's being held in loving arms.

Re: Sad news here

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:55 am
by Brutus
Such a senseless loss of life.
My condolonces.



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Re: Sad news here

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:41 am
by Gene
Thanks to everyone who replied - I appreciate the warm sentiments.

I have spoken to my sister about next steps - but nothing certain has been decided, other than he will be cremated, and there will be a memorial service near Fort Bragg where he was currently living. She and my mom have not taken part in any festivities this year, either. We have their gifts ready to go - but they have asked we wait on visiting. We will see them soon, I hope.

I need to expand on something - my comments about Agent Orange ... I apologize if I seemed to minimize any damage cause to anyone because of their exposure to AO - and I imagine some of you reading this would fall into that group. I know the government used it in Vietnam to aid in jungle clearing. And, just like Roundup today, it appears exposure to this substance can be hazardous to your health.

What I was trying to say is this - the effects of AO were an unintended consequence of something the troops were exposed to, but it was not specifically given to any soldier. Long-term damage might not have been anticipated. Whatever drug Matt got was given to him intentionally. Any harmful effects may have been unintentional, or perhaps a side effect that damaged only a very small percentage of those who got it - and he was one of those unfortunate few.

Re: Sad news here

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:19 pm
by jww
What a tragedy. These stories of the military turning on one who served with such loyalty are told far too often. For every one individual who is "cared for" there are many who have been ignored for reasons beyond me.

Like many others, please accept my condolences at this tragic and possibly preventable loss.

Re: Sad news here

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:16 am
by Brutus
Conquering heroes are celebrated when they come home.

Those who were sent out to serve in an unwinnable war are easily forgotten, because people do not like to be reminded of the costs of failure…



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