4711 Original Eau Du Cologne
It's one of the original colognes Jack, been around a couple hundred years or so. It's a light, fleeting citrus compound that's not as popular as in the past due in part I believe because it is perceived as old fashioned. I wouldn't hesitate to use it and it can be found for a good price.
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4711 is one of the few genuine classic 'eau de colognes', that is, cologne water as in Cologne, Germany. This particular receipe goes back to the 1790s but it's antecedents go back farther. This type of scent was probably first concocted in northern Italy and Santa Maria Novella in Florence still offer a version that they say dates back to the 1600s. Members of the Farina family first started selling it in Cologne around 1700 or so. Originally it was sold primarily as an internal medicine. Later, due partially to Napoleonic tax codes, it came to be used as only scent. So, as you can see, it has a long and complicated history ( which can be further pursued on the internet if you're interested ). Personally I like this style of scent even though it IS very light and fleeting. My own favourite was the one formally offered by Roger & Gallet but once that old firm was bought out they changed the scent unfortunately. I thought 4711 was almost as good. The standard splash bottle has not changed in my lifetime and as Squire pointed out, it still can be had at a reasonable price.
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Jack, i found a huge bottle (15 ounces I think), barely used, of 4711 ICE (slight menthol content) at an estate sale two or three years ago. (I haven't used the original 4711, but I assume they are similar if not identical.) The fragrance is very pleasant and as Squire and Gordon have stated, it is light and fleeting. The big old splash bottle with the pretty label is quite handsome and looks great on the shelf!
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I just bought my second 800 ml bottle of the stuff. Nice scent, but it doesn't last too long. So I use it as an aftershave mainly, just got to get used to the little extra sting though.
Gordon, I did find some Roger & Gallet cologne that I can swear is very similar to the 4711 and it too is a fleeting scent. I love all citrus scented colognes, aftershaves, etc.
Gordon, I did find some Roger & Gallet cologne that I can swear is very similar to the 4711 and it too is a fleeting scent. I love all citrus scented colognes, aftershaves, etc.
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It was good training for taking hard rolls and much like the scene in Das Boot when they were surface running in the storm and the second officer was screaming his head off.
I took a 44' waverley class out next- a boat with lots of voids that all STANK of bilge. I eventually rolled one 360 degrees and ended my career.
It's nice, being able to CHOOSE how and what one smells
I'm so grateful for the little things!KAV wrote:It's nice, being able to CHOOSE how and what one smells
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Bruno, If you did then you were fortunate. What they sell now as 'Extra Vielle' is not the same although they make it sound like it is. When Roger & Gallet was still an independent perfumer the bottle was shaped differently and the 'Jean Maria Farina' signiture was more prominent on the label. It was very similiar to the 4711 but I liked it a bit better. The last of it was probably bottled in the 1980s, maybe the early '90s. Roger & Gallet started up in the 1860s and bought the receipe from one of the Farinas who had been making it in Paris for decades at that point. There are complicated debates ( and legal suits ) regarding these formulas going all the way back to the 1700s.
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Gordon
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Gordon
Re: 4711 Original Eau Du Cologne
4711 turns up periodically in TK MAXX - very inexpensive, and there's usually a tester bottle to have a sniff of. I had a wee sample of it - wish liked it more, the history and mystique of its quite appealing.celar36 wrote:Somebody used? Any opinions about smell?
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